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The Penguins lost Brooks Orpik about 10 minutes into the game.
That is their second straight game of losing a top defenseman.
They are now without their top three defensemen.

To judge this team right now is irresponsible.
Judging Chris Bourque right now is as responsible as it gets.

The hockey world is gleeful at seeing the Penguins struggle.  It comes with the territory of being the defending Stanley Cup champions.  Injuries are never an excuse, but it's getting to the point of ridiculousness. 

Despite losing yet another key cog on the blue line, this was a 1-0 game throughout.
The Pens dominated most of the second, and early in the third. Just could not score.
Fleury played a brillant game.



If the Pens don't score, we don't recap.  New rule.

-- Deryk Eyngylgland played a hell of a game in his debut.  Made a couple mistakes, was physical city, and did not look lost for the most part. His line: 25 shifts, 19 minutes, 5 hits.

-- MAF was solid.  Made a few highlight saves.  Kept the Pens hanging around.

-- Pens haven't scored a powerplay goal since Malkin went down,  0-21.   0-1 in this one.

-- Bruins blocked everything. They were in every lane.
Just before they scored to make it 2-0, they blocked a shot on a Pens scoring chance.
A taste of your own medicine.

-- Hard to dog Crosby.  24 shifts, 22:46 of ice time.
Chara had 25 shifts, played 25 minutes.
Every shift Crosby was on the ice, Chara in turn was on his balls.
Still, Crosby looks bored.

-- Kunitz-Staal-Guerin unit was effective.   Generated some scoring chances. We liked the move.
Everyone thought it was about getting Bing going, but it's probably for Crosby to get Tenk going.

-- Still hate Mark Recchi.

-- Let us just say we thought the Ray Bourque interview on Versus was incredibly bad. 
First off, he called Jordan Staal "Eric."

Second, he was campaigning for Chris Bourque to play in Boston at some point in his career.  Yeah, we get it -- Ray Bourque is happy to see his
son play in the NHL. Well, so are a lot of dads.  Maybe we should start putting them all on TV.

Also, Chris Bourque played another joke game as far as we're concerned.  He got worked over on the boards. He made a nice play to save a goal, but that was by pure coincidence.   The rink is small.  He's bound to be in the right place at the right time eventually.  He played little under  10 minutes, and having to hear the wildly untalented color analyst give him verbal dome because Ray Bourque is in the vicinity makes us sick to our core.

And we're getting e-mails and there are comments floating around about "Why do you hate Chris Bourque so much?"  We'd go into some dramatic re-enactment of that scene from A Few Good Men, but Chris Bourque isn't even worth the time.

Why shouldn't we hate him?  He has played 10 games in the NHL.  He is a -3, and has one point.   To be fair, he is still a young 23, and could probably benefit from some development in the Pens system.   But he sucks.

The Pens will eventually waive him because he sucks so bad.
Then he'll sign with Boston and score against the Pens every game.
That kind of shit happens.

The Crosby Pee On Me Photoshop Expo will run Thursday morning.
So send some shit in.


Go Pens.


Comments  

 
#1 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 09:06
No team has ever suffered 3 straight losses in November and made the playoffs. Pens. Are. Boned.

And I'm sure folks will start chattering about how Malkin was able to carry the Pens when Sid was injured but Sid isn't carrying the Pens with Geno out. There's one big difference though - Geno didn't have half an AHL lineup with him when Sid was injured. If you think Sid's and Geno's situations are similar, go lick bag.
 
 
#2 Docc8 2009-11-11 09:15
Quote:
And we're getting e-mails and there are comments floating around about "Why do you hate Chris Bourque so much?" We'd go into some dramatic re-enactment of that scene from A Few Good Men, but Chris Bourque isn't even worth the time.

Why shouldn't we hate him? He has played 10 games in the NHL. He is a -3, and has one point. To be fair, he is still a young 23, and could probably benefit from some development in the Pens system. But he sucks.
Staff, the reason you're getting those emails and comments is because it's unwarranted. Check out what you said there--10 games. If you're going to pass judgment on someone in 10 games at 23 years old, then you may have written off tons of players who wound up pretty solid. And let's not forget how much this guy's making--under $600k.

Dupuis is a -4, and making $1.5 million. He looked as scoring-inept as Bourque last night, and didn't make a goal-saving Scuds-stop. But Staff gives him a free pass. THAT's why it seems a bit ridiculous to continually harp on Bourque--a guy we picked up on waivers and threw into the fire with brand new teammates.

Staff won't make the Olympic break.
 
 
#3 Rage 2009-11-11 09:24
Quote:
-- Still hate Mark Recchi.


Here, here!!
 
 
#4 dying alive 2009-11-11 09:28
zomg, no! the Capz are better than us! They'll win the President's Trophy! Suicide here we come! Here come all of the Caps trolls to brag about how they're so much more awesome than us during the first quarter of the regular season, just like last year. Yawn.

Seriously, if you're crying because the Pens have slipped to second in the conference and are likely to lose a few more over the next couple of weeks...in the words of Fleuryous, suck a D. I give credit to Bylsma for continuing to let Malkin heal and not panicking and putting him back into the line-up.

Quote:
Im calling an end to any future Jobu jokes. Those pussies at A2Y use him already. Id prefer to stay far away from anything related to them


In my defense, I had no idea that they used Jobu. I never bother reading that blog.
 
 
#5 Rage 2009-11-11 09:30
Quote:
Staff, the reason you're getting those emails and comments is because it's unwarranted.


They're getting all those emails because for some reason(possibly because his dad is RAY BOURQUE!!!!1!)people think an AHL-caliber player should be sucking up a roster spot in Pittsburgh. He's an AHL jobber that is either gonna get traded/waived... Potential doesn't get you a job in the NHL. Pesonen didn't get fellated/a tryout like this kid is, and personally, for 600k, I'd rather see Satan back in a Pens sweater sucking up a roster spot. Bottom line?

Whether 10 fucking games or 5 fucking games, there ain't any tryouts in the NHL during the regular season. Boom. Deal.

That said, I like the Conner kid better than Bourque, but I don't hate Bourque. Shero needs to get over his NHL father/son fixation he seems to have going on. I'm sure it's got something to do with being the Fog's son, but damn already.
 
 
#6 BTrain 2009-11-11 09:30
love the dysentery pic.








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#7 TurdFerguson 2009-11-11 09:35
My buddy and I had seats 8 rows from the glass, directly behind the Bruins bench where the runway is for them to get to/from there. My seat was the one next to the opening for said runway. Some good quotes yelled at the Bruins players I'd like to share...they got better the more we drank, of course:

"Thomas, you're a bum" - yeah weak, 1/2 of a beer consumed.

"Watch your back, Ferrence...Crosby's gonna beat your [butt] again" - 2 beers in. Then that was elevated to "Ferrence, don't get on the ice yet, Crosby's still out there and he'll kick your [butt] again"

Last, but not least...the 3 stars were coming out to be recognized. Thomas was the no. 1 star, obviously. As he waited in the tunnel, literally 10 feet away..."Thomas, you're 5 hole smells like a [woman's body part]" Oh man, I still tear up from laughing at that one. So good. All Thomas did was look up and smile when he heard it.

All in all, fun experience despite the loss. Bruins fans did NOTHING as we taunted their team, even when they were up 2-0.

Also, my middle finger got up on the jumbotron...twice. Some dude on the other side of the walkway across from me was wearing a ridiculous rainbow hat that would make Charlie proud (and wearing a freaking suit minus the tie). He was dancing like a jackass trying to get attention for the jumbotron. Noticing this I said "I know he's going to get on it...and when he does, so will my finger." POW got 'em. Even the 2 Bruins fans sitting in front of me were laughing. I guess it takes a lot for them to get mad or something.

Don't worry, Pens fans...the Bruins can only win when it isn't the playoffs (also a point brought up to all the Bruins fans at the bars after the game).

Stay on the bridge everyone...don't jump until March.

GO PENS!
 
 
#8 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 09:35
Quoting Rage:
They're getting all those emails because for some reason(possibly because his dad is RAY BOURQUE!!!!1!)people think an AHL-caliber player should be sucking up a roster spot in Pittsburgh. He's an AHL jobber that is either gonna get traded/waived... Potential doesn't get you a job in the NHL. Pesonen didn't get fellated/a tryout like this kid is, and personally, for 600k, I'd rather see Satan back in a Pens sweater sucking up a roster spot. Bottom line?

Whether 10 fucking games or 5 fucking games, there ain't any tryouts in the NHL during the regular season. Boom. Deal.

Pesonen may not have been blown here, but there were some corners of the Pens world that spoke of Pesonen in such glowing terms that you'd think he was the second coming of Buries It.

Once the Pens get healthy again, Bourque will be back where he was before the spate of injuries: either wearing a suit in the press box or on waivers/an AHL roster. If he's still playing substantial minutes for the Pens in 2010 then we should bitch.
 
 
#9 Rage 2009-11-11 09:36
I find it hard to believe anybody is getting butt-hurt over the season already. Seriously. After 18 games? There will be a body count by the end of the Olympics
 
 
#10 Docc8 2009-11-11 09:36
Quoting Rage:
Pesonen didn't get fellated like this kid is, and personally, for 600k, I'd rather see Satan back in a Pens sweater sucking up a roster spot.

1. Pesonen DID get fellated like Bourque, but it wasn't in the press--it was here. cbloggers acted like Pesonen was the famed "Winger For Sid," until he flopped. Pesonen may wind up a decent NHL player as well, but he only had about 10 games himself.

2. I would take Satan for 600k at this point as well. But I think he wanted a bit more than that. According to this page (Slovak) it looks like he's eyeing the Olympics for the Slovak national team.
pluska.sk/.../...
 
 
#11 Russ Muffin 2009-11-11 09:36
Loving the Pens Bandwagon/Organ Trail PS. It some how catches the essence of my hatred and love at the same time. Apple II FTW!
 
 
#12 Rage 2009-11-11 09:41
Quote:
there were some corners of the Pens world that spoke of Pesonen in such glowing terms that you'd think he was the second coming of Buries It.


Apparently in that corner now resides the worshipers at the altar of Bourque...all that love for both could actually originate from the warm glow(as depicted in medieval art)of the christ-like visage of Ray "Baby Jesus" Shero in that ANY move he makes will be miraculous and exactly the right thing to do.

[EDIT] I'm personally NOT a believer in that one either.
 
 
#13 Rage 2009-11-11 09:41
Quote:
Apple II FTW


I loled

Also at this:

Quote:
Deryk Eyngylgland
 
 
#14 dying alive 2009-11-11 09:42
Is all of this Bourque stuff serious? I kind of thought that staff was just jobbing him to ruffle feathers. Of course, I never know what the hell is going on so whatev.

Speaking of injuries, guess who is saying he's "day to day" after a full, hard practice?

www.post-gazette.com/.../1012476-61.stm

Feel great, skate good.
www.youtube.com/.../
 
 
#15 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 09:44
Quoting Rage:
Apparently in that corner now resides the worshipers at the altar of Bourque...all that love for both could actually originate from the warm glow(as depicted in medieval art)of the christ-like visage of Ray "Baby Jesus" Shero in that ANY move he makes will be miraculous and exactly the right thing to do.

[EDIT] I'm personally NOT a believer in that one either.

Every GM has at least one or two moves he'd like to take back. In the cases of Mike Milbury and Don Waddell, they only have one or two moves each that they wouldn't want to take back.
 
 
#16 Rage 2009-11-11 09:45
Quote:
I would take Satan for 600k at this point as well. But I think he wanted a bit more than that


Key word: wantED...now dude should be just looking for employment. Olympics don't pay...do they? Just sayin'
 
 
#17 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 09:47
Quoting Rage:
Olympics don't pay...do they? Just sayin'

Cash4Gold, my man
 
 
#18 Rage 2009-11-11 09:50
Maybe I'm looking thru homer glasses, but I say Rejean is still the class of the league
 
 
#19 OMGodard 2009-11-11 09:50
Thanks for the comments on the PS guys! I don't submit them very often, so I was pretty pumped to see it on here.

It was inspired by one of my more witty tweets last night: "Whenever I think of a bandwagon, I picture a game of Oregon Trail. And all the bandwagon fans die of dysentery."
 
 
#20 Ron Nuttug 2009-11-11 09:54
FHCMT never gave Pesonen a chance. He may have been good, but we'll never know. Yeah he was up here, but you could tell that the old coach did not like him. He tore it up at camp and in preseason. I don't get the Bourque hate either. He hasn't lit the world on fire but I don't think he's been that bad. I actually thought he played well in his first game. If you are using this train of thought, jesus tapdancing christ did you used to hate Orpik and Scuderi, especially Scuds early in his career. He was bad. Point being, give him a chance, you never know how he will turn out.
 
 
#21 Matt Eager 2009-11-11 09:58
@Bourqueblog - I don't especially like the kid, but I really don't understand the vitriol directed at him. Everyone got outworked last night. After Orpik went down (which was way more devastating than any shutout loss), it seemed like the team was playing not to lose more players.

That said, sHero said he'd be evaluating the team this year in 20 game portions. I think we might see where Bourque fits in with the team sooner rather than later.

Finally, I still can't believe no one's gone off about the time the Versus broadcasters suggested that, since the Pens only had 5 defensemen skating, Bourque should be put in as a 4th forward. With all the "zomg no backchecking defensively a jokkkke" talk around here, I would have thought you'd pounce on that like the Chief on child porn.
 
 
#22 Rage 2009-11-11 10:02
Quote:
did you used to hate Orpik and Scuderi, especially Scuds early in his career. He was bad.


So true, but it was a different era then. There were no other options for them, so they HAD to develop those guys. I'd rather see a Pens prospect get the "development time" this kid is getting. Like I said, I don't hate the kid, and we have all seen worse in a Pens sweater, but I'm with staff in that I just don't get it.
 
 
#23 Rage 2009-11-11 10:03
Quote:
I really don't understand the vitriol directed at him.


I don't see vitriol, I see committed indifference.
 
 
#24 Mario = God 2009-11-11 10:09
Quoting Rage:
Quote:
Staff, the reason you're getting those emails and comments is because it's unwarranted.


They're getting all those emails because for some reason(possibly because his dad is RAY BOURQUE!!!!1!)people think an AHL-caliber player should be sucking up a roster spot in Pittsburgh. He's an AHL jobber that is either gonna get traded/waived... Potential doesn't get you a job in the NHL. Pesonen didn't get fellated/a tryout like this kid is, and personally, for 600k, I'd rather see Satan back in a Pens sweater sucking up a roster spot. Bottom line?

Whether 10 fucking games or 5 fucking games, there ain't any tryouts in the NHL during the regular season. Boom. Deal.

That said, I like the Conner kid better than Bourque, but I don't hate Bourque. Shero needs to get over his NHL father/son fixation he seems to have going on. I'm sure it's got something to do with being the Fog's son, but damn already.



Preach it brother Rage! I agree 100% with everything you said here. EVERYTHING!


Bring back SATAN! (I like the sound of that shit)
 
 
#25 dying alive 2009-11-11 10:12
The only reason anyone is even talking about Bourque is because of the injuries to Kennedy and Malkin. If the two of them are healthy, Bourque is the team's official NHL arena nacho taster right now. As guys start getting healthy, he'll be back in the press box.
 
 
#26 Mario = God 2009-11-11 10:14
Pesonen - I too hoped he would hack it in the NHL. I think he could have in another year. He kicked ass in the AHL. Major ass in fact. He wasn't jobbing on the Baby Pens, he was scoring goals left and right. I think he could have been a third line guy at best in the NHL and I think he knew that. SO, he went home to play again to make more green. Can't blame the guy for that.
 
 
#27 Whit 2009-11-11 10:17
I don't particularly enjoy Bourque, but I don't hate the kid. He's played 10 games. However, there always has to be someone to blame shit on, and right now, it's not Staal or Fleury, it's Bourque. I make fun of the kid as a joke, not sure about everyone else.
 
 
#28 punkbeggs 2009-11-11 10:23
its kinda hard to mesh when you dont know what your line is going to be day to day. If injuries are going to occur, I would rather it be now rather in March. The Pens believe in HCDB and they will find away to come though. Never say die ! if you havent been pounding your pud in a corner for the last 2 years, then you know what this Pens team is about.
 
 
#29 J.S. 2009-11-11 10:25
Nuttug covered my Pesonen comment. We're supposed to judge Pesonen when Therrien wouldn't let him play more than 7 minutes a game? I still think he never got a fair shot in Pittsburgh. Let the stats show that when Pesonen plays more than 7 minutes (ooooooooooooh! ), the Pens are undefeated. linkage.: espn.go.com/.../... this mean I think he would have been a 70 point player if he was used right? Not really, but I'm sure he would have been better than somebody who is cruising on daddy's reputation and a 1 way contract at this point.

Speaking of daddy, I'm glad to see that I wasn't the only one bothered by Ray's talking during the game. It would have been one thing if they would have brought him in on the pregame....oh wait, Versus doesn't have a pregame, but the one thing that Versus does a lot is bring in players/former players to chat at the start of the period. Bourque was one of those people who I always considered a boring interview. Boring enough that he makes Joe Sakic sound like TO in comparison. Considering how media nicknamed Sakic "quoteless Joe" (along with Sakic acknowledging it in quite a few interviews), you can see where I'm going with it. Don't get me wrong, I like listening to the players from the past, especially ones who have put a decade or two into the league, but hearing Bourque fumbling around on names and sounding absolutely "thrilled" that his son played 5 minutes through two periods, it just took away from the already bad broadcast.
 
 
#30 24SesameStreet 2009-11-11 10:29
Any official word on Orpik???
 
 
#31 Raybin 2009-11-11 10:33
I think Bourque's skills are clearly overrated. That being said, I amp up my mockery to piss off the thin skinned whiners. I did the same thing with Pesonen last year.

I think whoever said Shero's 20 game evaluation is going to be bad for Bourque's future with the Pens is right. Though after the way he's played, he may not even get claimed on waivers. Adam Mair just cleared waivers up in Buffalo and I'd much rather have him on my team than Chris Bourque. I've got no problem with him in WBS.

I love how there are bandwagon jumpers after three games lost. These were the same people who jumped ship in December 2008-January 2009 and then scrambled back aboard the Disco Express in late March/early April. Whatevs, I've been here all along and my seat on the wagon has a comfortable ass-groove worn in it to fit me. I ain't goin' nowhere.

The Pittsburgh fanbase = soff. Trade Ben after 1 interception! Trade Crosby after a three game losing streak! EEK! OH NOES! Many cities would love to have these problems.

Finally, I am convinced that Evgeni Malkin has had enough of your shit and is going to destroy the universe when he returns. Mark it down.
 
 
#32 PittHockey 2009-11-11 10:33
The Bourque hate is unreal.

He was brought in to be a 3rd liner, so Crosby can play with TK and actually have a scoring winger. Injuries have put a dent in this plan, but that's how it's going to be.
 
 
#33 Whit 2009-11-11 10:36
Quote:
I amp up my mockery to piss off the thin skinned whiners


exactly
 
 
#34 Stoosh 2009-11-11 10:40
Some thoughts, dudes...

1. Thanks, DA, for posting that link to the P-G article. On his show yesterday, Mark Madden said that a few of these guys who have been out are getting close to coming back, and it was down to a matter of days, not weeks for some of them. Sounds like Malkin is part of that group.

2. I'll qualify this statement by pointing to the several 55-gallon drums of Shero Kool-Aid that I have stored in the drunk tank at Chateau du Stoosh (OK, it's a cold cellar/pantry, but it would double as a drunk tank when we get the hockey den finished in the basement and you all are invited over for Pens games). But when you really think about it, the Chris Bourque signing might be one of the largest black marks on the Ray Shero regime to this point. That says something.

3. Nice to see Derek Engelland play well last night. I was not a fan of the way he played in the preseason...there were times he looked like me out there on skates. But it's good to read that he really didn't seem out of place at all.

4. Having seen him a few times in person and watching him again last night, playing against Zdeno Chara might be one of the most miserable experiences for a hockey player. I know Hal Gill made life suck for a lot of Pens opponents but as much as I love him, Hal Gill is nowhere near the skater that Zdeno Chara is. Ottawa fans who get to see Chara six times a year playing for Boston have got to be sick that Murray let him go in favor of keeping Wade Redden after that 05-06 season.

5. In short, this whole string of the last few games sucks, but here's the deal. We've got about six weeks before Christmas. Well before that point, probably about the time that you're still doing Christmas shopping or perhaps settling in to watch the Steelers play the Raiders, Chris Conner and Derek Engelland will be getting off the bus to play some game against Binghamton or Bridgeport, and telling Eric Tangradi and Brian Strait to carry their bags into the arena.

Chris Bourque will be in a suit watching from the press box enjoying a pretzel and some nachos with Martin Skoula.

And we'll be back to actually watching a Pens team that is bringing Evgeni Malkin, Sergei Gonchar, Tyler Kennedy, Kris Letang, Brooks Orpik AND Max Talbot to the party every night.

Give it a few more weeks and this is what we'll have. And once that group gets going, no one's going to give a fuck about getting shut out two straight games in the middle of November.
 
 
#35 Raybin 2009-11-11 10:41
Something to remind the bandwagoners about...a quick shot of the Pens injuries:

Evgeni Malkin
Sergei Gonchar
Kris Letang
Brooks Orpik
Tyler Kennedy
Max Talbot

How well would the Flyers do if they lost Capn Leadership, Pronger, Timmonen, Coburn, Giroux and Powe? Probably not so good.

What if the 'Hawks lost Toews, Campbell, Seabrook, Keith, Byfuglien and Versteeg? You see where I'm going with this.

I will say it'd be nice to see the Pens steal a point in OT or a shootout in one of these games. But whatevs, when this team is healthy, they'll reenact the 1992-1993 season like they were well on their way to doing before the hockey gods took a dump on them. We'll deal with any potential David Voleks when the time comes.
 
 
#36 Dooby Dooby Doo 2009-11-11 10:41
Took a long time crossin
Bridge of Sighs


www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtr9QbaZmTk
 
 
#37 dying alive 2009-11-11 10:44
The people whining about the losses (nobody here that I've seen, but elsewhere on the internets) are ridiculous. Clearly these people were not around for the mid-2000s and have no idea what a losing streak really is. People who just started watching this team in the past few years are completely spoiled - they're watching a great team with great players, no dealing with the arena debacle, etc. I'm not saying it's not OK to be a new fan, but I'm saying that a down year or two will separate the *real* new fans from the bandwagon chaff. If somebody thinks that losing three games - even though two were shutouts - is a big deal and the worst thing ever, they should just find themselves an oven, stick their head in, and turn it on. Save yourself the trouble of doing it later, because there is always worse waiting down the line.

And yes, Ray Bourque's interview over the first five minutes of the third period was annoying. Interview the guy during the intermission if you feel the need to, but when the game starts, STFU and follow the action. And another minor complaint - Darryl Engelland? Really? I could see once or even twice, but all night long? The guy is playing in his first NHL game, which is a pretty big deal. Do him the courtesy of getting his name right. It's kind of your job.
 
 
#38 dying alive 2009-11-11 10:48
Quoting 24SesameStreet:
Any official word on Orpik???


He's being evaluated today, I haven't seen any further updates though.

A note on one injury fill-in who's been great IMO - Martin Skoula. The guy has been solid since day one. I know it's a different situation because he's a veteran player, but not every veteran player is able to step in and perform right off the bat with a new team.
 
 
#39 Raybin 2009-11-11 10:54
Skoula's been ass-kickin' city. When you have such a guy as your 7th defenseman, life is pretty good. Besides, it's in his best interest to play balls-out since he's also playing for a contract next season with another team.

Or here's a thought: Both Eaton and Skoula are UFAs as of July 1.

Eaton: Will be 33, cap hit of 2 million
Skoula: 30, cap hit of 575,000

Just sayin'. Not slagging Eaton at all or saying that Skoula is a better player. But in the salary cap era, decisions have to be made, especially for a team with about 32 million in cap space taken up with Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury, Orpik and Goligoski....plus new contracts on the horizon for Letang and potentially Gonchar.
 
 
#40 Annie S 2009-11-11 11:03
Quote:
In short, this whole string of the last few games sucks, but here's the deal. We've got about six weeks before Christmas. Well before that point, probably about the time that you're still doing Christmas shopping or perhaps settling in to watch the Steelers play the Raiders, Chris Conner and Derek Engelland will be getting off the bus to play some game against Binghamton or Bridgeport, and telling Eric Tangradi and Brian Strait to carry their bags into the arena. Chris Bourque will be in a suit watching from the press box enjoying a pretzel and some nachos with Martin Skoula. And we'll be back to actually watching a Pens team that is bringing Evgeni Malkin, Sergei Gonchar, Tyler Kennedy, Kris Letang, Brooks Orpik AND Max Talbot to the party every night. Give it a few more weeks and this is what we'll have. And once that group gets going, no one's going to give a fuck about getting shut out two straight games in the middle of November.


PREACH.

Oh, and one year ago today:

 
 
#41 ladyjaye 2009-11-11 11:04
It's okay guys. We're gonna be fine. I mean, we do have Eric Staal on our team now as well. I had to double take and rewind the interview to make sure I heard that right when it aired.

Anybody getting worked up in November really needs to get a grip. They are quite literally not going to make the playoffs. Is it frustrating as hell to watch all these injuries? Sure is. But I'm hoping that karma eases up on the team and we ride out the rest of the year generally OK. I'll take all the injuries in November rather than March.

I think Chris Bourque is a convenient scape goat right now. But right now, what choice is there? We have so many guys that are injured. I would be really surprised if he had a regular shift whenever everybody is back. And then even at that point... why send him to the minors? I'd rather have him sitting in the press box than Conner (or whatever other AHLer you want to put into that statement). Let Conner have his playing time in WBS.

DA, I absolutely agree 100% about Skoula. It's been great to have him on stand by.

Annie, thanks for the reminder. What an amazing game that was.
 
 
#42 crmzak 2009-11-11 11:08
I was there. Want to know why I'm not worried?

Disco.

At the end of the game, I shit you not, was all smiles walking off the bench into the locker room. He even stopped for a minute to gleefully wave at some Pens fans. Fahck, the dude's as cool as the cucumber on the other side of my pillow.

Well, that and thank God it's November. TGIN!
 
 
#43 OMGodard 2009-11-11 11:10
Quoting crmzak:
. Fahck, the dude's as cool as the cucumber on the other side of my pillow.



He really is. The one morning at morning skate some kid asked him for a fist bump and as he's doing it, Disco goes "blow it up" and does it. What a human.
 
 
#44 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 11:13
Quoting ladyjaye:
I think Chris Bourque is a convenient scape goat right now. But right now, what choice is there? We have so many guys that are injured. I would be really surprised if he had a regular shift whenever everybody is back. And then even at that point... why send him to the minors? I'd rather have him sitting in the press box than Conner (or whatever other AHLer you want to put into that statement). Let Conner have his playing time in WBS.

I say we blame Max Talbot for everything. This team just can't win without a Superstar in the lineup. Back to reality - when the Pens get healthy, Bourque will likely get fewer minutes than Godard (assuming Bourque is still with the Pens after they get healthy again).

Skoula has been great since stepping into the lineup. In all honesty, I wonder if HCDB sits him or another d-man when the Pens get healthy again. Skoula has done nothing (at least not yet) to warrant going back to the press box when the d-corps is healthy. I look at what Raybin was pointing out and I look to keep Skoula if the money's right after this season. I like Eaton, he's done well for us, but he's 3 years older and 3-4 times more expensive. I anticipate Eaton's price coming down a bit and Skoula's going up a bit after this season, but if I have my druthers, I retain Skoula over Eaton - even if Skoula wants a bit more than Eaton. Of course, I am no NHL GM so what do I know?
 
 
#45 dps2002 2009-11-11 11:18
Quoting Rage:
Apparently in that corner now resides the worshipers at the altar of Bourque...all that love for both could actually originate from the warm glow(as depicted in medieval art)of the christ-like visage of Ray "Baby Jesus" Shero in that ANY move he makes will be miraculous and exactly the right thing to do.

[EDIT] I'm personally NOT a believer in that one either.


Did I really take my hyping of Pesonen and Bourque on here that far? Really?

I stuck this at the back end of the gameday c-blog, but I'm going to re-post it here.

"Time to invoke some reverse psychology, since my constant requests of the team appear to be not working:

Go ahead, fuck-sticks. Keep getting hurt. I'd love to come out there on Saturday and travel five hours to see the team that I see at the arena five minutes from me.

(Hell...that might work, too.)"
 
 
#46 Little Artie 2009-11-11 11:26
When I remember how upset Caps fans got over the Pens stealing Bourque, one of their top prospects, it makes me happy. Guess Bourque is useful for something after all.

Time for the rest of the boys to step up. Staal's supposed to be a second line center on most other teams, he's been playing well, but let's see him produce like one. Billy G's been getting some chances, time for him to break loose. And Sid? Well, to quote the guy the next table over from me, he must be "as mad as a fire ant in July." Pens have chased Brodeur more than any other team, we need to do it again Thursday.
 
 
#47 ladyjaye 2009-11-11 11:37
PensFan, I'm on the fence with keeping Skoula in after everybody is healthy or not. His role up front was the 7th d-man so I kinda look at it this way: is it fair for somebody who was playing great before injuries to lose their job to him? Of course when you look at the Skoula vs Eaton part... good question. I still say let Eats play. He's been clutch for us in the past and he really doesn't warrant benching either. Tough decision. This is why I'd never make it as a coach and I'm posting on a blog. ;)
 
 
#48 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 11:41
Quoting ladyjaye:
PensFan, I'm on the fence with keeping Skoula in after everybody is healthy or not. His role up front was the 7th d-man so I kinda look at it this way: is it fair for somebody who was playing great before injuries to lose their job to him? Of course when you look at the Skoula vs Eaton part... good question. I still say let Eats play. He's been clutch for us in the past and he really doesn't warrant benching either. Tough decision. This is why I'd never make it as a coach and I'm posting on a blog. ;)

I know Skoula was brought in to be a 7th defenseman and, more importantly, he's aware of that too. All I'm saying is that he's done absolutely nothing to warrant an immediate return to street clothes. The Eaton v Skoula talk was more for after the season is over than right now. Of course come trade deadline time, if a team really wants one (or both) of those guys and makes the right offer, pull the trigger - they aren't indispensable.
 
 
#49 Pensblog Derek 2009-11-11 11:45
Quoting Docc8:
Quote:
And we're getting e-mails and there are comments floating around about "Why do you hate Chris Bourque so much?" We'd go into some dramatic re-enactment of that scene from A Few Good Men, but Chris Bourque isn't even worth the time.

Why shouldn't we hate him? He has played 10 games in the NHL. He is a -3, and has one point. To be fair, he is still a young 23, and could probably benefit from some development in the Pens system. But he sucks.
Staff, the reason you're getting those emails and comments is because it's unwarranted. Check out what you said there--10 games. If you're going to pass judgment on someone in 10 games at 23 years old, then you may have written off tons of players who wound up pretty solid. And let's not forget how much this guy's making--under $600k.

Dupuis is a -4, and making $1.5 million. He looked as scoring-inept as Bourque last night, and didn't make a goal-saving Scuds-stop. But Staff gives him a free pass. THAT's why it seems a bit ridiculous to continually harp on Bourque--a guy we picked up on waivers and threw into the fire with brand new teammates.

Staff won't make the Olympic break.


Dude Dupes is fine. He has his role in the NHL and he plays it fine. To compare Bourque and Dupes does not work.

Also, lets not forget, Bourque has played with Malkin and Crosby a good bit as well.

If you can't get more than a few points when you're supposed to be some unreal scorer, you're a joke.

Here is the funny thing about Penguin fans. They always think the new girl is hot. Doesn't matter why. But guess what? The new girl has AIDS, and her cooch looks the roast beef on sale at giant eagle right now.


It is a common tread throughout the years.

Bourque getting out worked in the third period is all you need to know about him as a penguin. 10, 20, 30 games.

Mud city.
 
 
#50 TheMasterdeBater 2009-11-11 11:45
Trade Crosby for Heatley
woooooo!
 
 
#51 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 11:48
Quoting Pensblog Derek:
Here is the funny thing about Penguin fans. They always think the new girl is hot. Doesn't matter why. But guess what? The new girl has AIDS, and her cooch looks the roast beef on sale at giant eagle right now.

Kind of like the backup QB always being the most popular person with Steelers fans. Ben threw a pick and fumbled - put in Batch or Dixon NOW!!!!!!1!!
 
 
#52 PittHockey 2009-11-11 11:57
Quoting TheMasterdeBate r:
Trade Crosby for Heatley
woooooo!

Finally, a winger for Crosby!


waitaminute
 
 
#53 Matt Eager 2009-11-11 12:03
"X isn't making the Y" gets thrown around a lot here, but truly, Bourque isn't making December.

Offtopicblog, this is goddamn awesome:

downgoesbrown.com/.../...
 
 
#54 dying alive 2009-11-11 12:08
Quoting TheMasterdeBate r:
Trade Crosby for Heatley
woooooo!


Like they could get Heatley for Crosby. Dude hasn't scored in like five games. Maybe Chris Neil or somebody is available.
 
 
#55 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 12:10
Quoting Matt Eager:
Offtopicblog, this is goddamn awesome:

downgoesbrown.com/.../...

I saw that earlier today and was amazed. It really is so true.

There's one thing left off both of the flow charts though:

Will this help Bettman fix it so Sid gets the Cup?
 
 
#56 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 12:10
Quoting dying alive:
Quoting TheMasterdeBate r:
Trade Crosby for Heatley
woooooo!


Like they could get Heatley for Crosby. Dude hasn't scored in like five games. Maybe Chris Neil or somebody is available.

Chris Neil is way too steep a price for Sid. Sid hasn't scored in 5 games and he isn't a leader.

[EDIT] Sid also isn't nearly passionate enough about getting the escrow money back. Only electrifying, complete players are.
 
 
#57 fleuryous 2009-11-11 12:18
Skoula=really solid, in my opinion. Another testament to Shero's genius.

Not worried. If we were 10th place in February...I still wouldn't be worried ;).

I hope Orpik's okay, and I can't WAIT for Geno to come back. He's going to be pissed. That being said, I don't want him coming back prematurely. Don't want to risk the chance of reaggravating the injury.

I miss Turbo :(. And speaking of speed, Dups has had a really solid few games.

All I have to say is...Jersey/Uncle Daddy, watch out. They will be pissed. I wish I could be there, screaming my face off for them. Which means if you're going, you'd BETTER do it for me, Jokes.

Go Pens.
 
 
#58 cookeemonster 2009-11-11 12:24
Agreed. Crosby is the worst two-way player in the league.
 
 
#59 MikeT 2009-11-11 12:25
Quoting Docc8:
Quote:
And we're getting e-mails and there are comments floating around about "Why do you hate Chris Bourque so much?" We'd go into some dramatic re-enactment of that scene from A Few Good Men, but Chris Bourque isn't even worth the time.

Why shouldn't we hate him? He has played 10 games in the NHL. He is a -3, and has one point. To be fair, he is still a young 23, and could probably benefit from some development in the Pens system. But he sucks.
Staff, the reason you're getting those emails and comments is because it's unwarranted. Check out what you said there--10 games. If you're going to pass judgment on someone in 10 games at 23 years old, then you may have written off tons of players who wound up pretty solid. And let's not forget how much this guy's making--under $600k.

Dupuis is a -4, and making $1.5 million. He looked as scoring-inept as Bourque last night, and didn't make a goal-saving Scuds-stop. But Staff gives him a free pass. THAT's why it seems a bit ridiculous to continually harp on Bourque--a guy we picked up on waivers and threw into the fire with brand new teammates.

Staff won't make the Olympic break.


perfect!

I didnt read any other comments, i only saw this because it was the 2nd comment made.
 
 
#60 akus 2009-11-11 12:27
~~

On a very off hockeytopicblog .
These are the only soldiers i salute.


For you C.
And all who have served.
 
 
#61 akus 2009-11-11 12:33
Quoting MikeT:
perfect!

I didnt read any other comments, i only saw this because it was the 2nd comment made.


After reading some of the comments why does the phrase "you can't fix stupid" pop into my head.
 
 
#62 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 12:38
Quoting akus:
Quoting MikeT:
perfect!

I didnt read any other comments, i only saw this because it was the 2nd comment made.


After reading some of the comments why does the phrase "you can't fix stupid" pop into my head.

My question would be: Does this mean MikeT is just agreeing with somebody else on C-blog and is unable to form an opinion on hockey of his own?
 
 
#63 dps2002 2009-11-11 12:40
Quoting akus:
Quoting MikeT:
perfect!

I didnt read any other comments, i only saw this because it was the 2nd comment made.


After reading some of the comments why does the phrase "you can't fix stupid" pop into my head.


Because Ron White is awesome, and because it fits.

We'll leave the whole "breast reconstruction" part of that bit out for purposes of this discussion, though...if that's OK.
 
 
#64 Mario = God 2009-11-11 12:42
Boy, the love for each other in this place this morning is unreal.
 
 
#65 Mario = God 2009-11-11 12:45
On a side note...has anyone in here ever used INEEDTWO for tix? if so how long does it take for them to send the damn things?
 
 
#66 nomnomnom24 2009-11-11 12:52
Does anyone here know anything about the club level seats at Mellon? I know they aren't the Igloo seats and they're above the suites thats all. Can someone please enlighten me.
 
 
#67 Mario = God 2009-11-11 12:55
And just to be a dick. Dups is a -3 not a -4.


Just sayin'.
 
 
#68 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 13:03
Quoting Mario = God:
And just to be a dick. Dups is a -3 not a -4.


Just sayin'.

And to be a bigger dick: plus/minus is an overrated stat.
 
 
#69 Mario = God 2009-11-11 13:09
Quoting PensFan2166:
Quoting Mario = God:
And just to be a dick. Dups is a -3 not a -4.


Just sayin'.

And to be a bigger dick: plus/minus is an overrated stat.


Well played.
 
 
#70 crmzak 2009-11-11 13:28
McKee seemed to be a little off last night, no?
 
 
#71 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 13:32
Quoting crmzak:
McKee seemed to be a little off last night, no?

I'd attribute any bit of being "off" by McKee (or any other defender) to having 5 d-men for 90% of the game and all of them having to go out with a different pairing partner every single time over the boards.

I'll say this much though, Goligoski is turning into a monster. We already knew he had speed, shiftiness, and offensive ability. Now he's playing some decent defensive hockey and throwing his body around a bit too. If his development curve continues like this, he'll be a huge bargain by next season and the season after.
 
 
#72 Rage 2009-11-11 13:37
Quote:
Fahck, the dude's as cool as the cucumber on the other side of my pillow.


Uhhhhhhh...okay I'm gonna leave that alone...but I see what you did there...

@Akus: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOfor the war dawgs!!!!(and you know who you are)
 
 
#73 crmzak 2009-11-11 13:45
Quoting PensFan2166:
Quoting crmzak:
McKee seemed to be a little off last night, no?

I'd attribute any bit of being "off" by McKee (or any other defender) to having 5 d-men for 90% of the game and all of them having to go out with a different pairing partner every single time over the boards.


I'm not one to call out a particular player, didn't mean it like that. One could say the entire team was 'off' last night for the very reasons you listed. Something about his play simply stood out to me, so I was curious if he was under the weather since I had heard of someone else besides Gogo being sick but couldn't recall who it was.

Speaking of which, I'd be happy if we make it out of Boston without the boys contracting H1N1 or Orpik being out for too long.

And for someone who does yoga, Tim Thomas sure lost his balance quite easily.
 
 
#74 akus 2009-11-11 13:47
When the Pens signed McKee the biggest knock on him was he would be okay if he stayed healthy.

No one said anything about passing the torch to the other D-men.
 
 
#75 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 13:53
Quoting crmzak:
I'm not one to call out a particular player, didn't mean it like that. One could say the entire team was 'off' last night for the very reasons you listed. Something about his play simply stood out to me, so I was curious if he was under the weather since I had heard of someone else besides Gogo being sick but couldn't recall who it was.

Speaking of which, I'd be happy if we make it out of Boston without the boys contracting H1N1 or Orpik being out for too long.

And for someone who does yoga, Tim Thomas sure lost his balance quite easily.

I didn't think you were calling anyone out. I recognize the difference between piqued curiosity and full-on lambasting of players. In all honesty, I didn't notice anything different about McKee compared to other performances. The one guy who stood out the most to me last night was Deryk Engelland. He played a pretty impressive game - especially for an NHL debut with a team who has been hammered with the injury bug. He didn't look too much out of place like I thought Ben Lovejoy did for much of his call-up last season.

As far as Tim Thomas goes, he thought all those swinging sticks were penises and just started diving at them. He loves him some penis.

sexualityspecul ationblog
 
 
#76 dying alive 2009-11-11 14:00
Quoting PensFan2166:
I'll say this much though, Goligoski is turning into a monster. We already knew he had speed, shiftiness, and offensive ability. Now he's playing some decent defensive hockey and throwing his body around a bit too. If his development curve continues like this, he'll be a huge bargain by next season and the season after.


Goligoski is a monster, a pimp and a beast all rolled into one. I really, really can't buy any more jerseys but he's tempting the hell out of me. Maybe I'll just pick up a shersey.
 
 
#77 akus 2009-11-11 14:01
@Turd,
I am curious on why you worded what you did like this,

Quote:
Watch your back, Ferrence...Crosby's gonna beat your {butt} again" - 2 beers in. Then that was elevated to "Ferrence, don't get on the ice yet, Crosby's still out there and he'll kick your {butt} again" Last, but not least...the 3 stars were coming out to be recognized. Thomas was the no. 1 star, obviously. As he waited in the tunnel, literally 10 feet away..."Thomas, you're 5 hole smells like a {woman's body part}


Were you yelling with your hands around your mouth so you show it like this [butt]????
Please tell me the reason you did that is because you did not want to use the word ASS or PUSSY on this blog.
That is just to funny.


Thanks for sharing the power you have after a few beers,way to represent the Pens.


Quote:
Bruins fans did NOTHING as we taunted their team


Does that surprise you?

Quote:
jackass


Could not have said it better myself.
 
 
#78 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 14:04
Quoting akus:
Please tell me the reason you did that is because you did not want to use the word ASS or PUSSY on this blog.
That is just to funny.

Hey, some of us have delicate sensibilities and don't need our eyes and minds sullied by that potty-talk.
 
 
#79 dying alive 2009-11-11 14:07
Hey Turd (ha ha), was the arena as empty as it looked on tv last night? It seemed like there was nobody there but I always thought the Broons drew a pretty good crowd.
 
 
#80 TurdFerguson 2009-11-11 14:10
hahah akus i did it for the more sensitive readers...and i was/am at work, don't know how much i'm being watched by THE MAN. i did swear a lot last night at the game haha. can't wait to be back home in Pittsburgh from this stupid city (Boston).

Chris Bourque looked awful, but right as i said that to my buddy last night Bourque had to go and make the Crosby-esque save when MAF couldn't get over.

Anyways, go pens GO PENS!
 
 
#81 PensFan2166 2009-11-11 14:13
@TurdFerguson - I hereby formally request you change your avatar to this (or something similar).


But I'm a joke, so don't feel compelled to listen to me.
 
 
#82 crmzak 2009-11-11 14:24
Early on, Engelland got fucking rocked (by Bitz, I think?) and didn't even bat an eyelash. I thought he looked solid for the entire game and seemed to fit right in.

@DA, the arena was pretty empty. And quiet. I've been to louder Orlando Solar Bear games. Don't forget the Bruins have been in their own little slump lately (this was their first 2 wins in a row this season) so it was probably only the die-hards in attendance.

Seriously, you guys do not want to know how cheap my tickets were the day before the game and/or how many were still available.
 
 
#83 crmzak 2009-11-11 14:52
Not defending TurdFerguson, but for what it's worth... there really was no need for Pens Nation to harass the Bruins last night. Their own fans were taking care of that. Some of my faves:



  • "I hate you, Chara!"





  • A scream of "H1N1!!!" at Krejci as he got slammed into the glass





  • "I still hate you, Chara!!!" (same guy)





  • Plenty of SHOOOTbirds throughout the evening as well




Between the wannabe hockey mom in front of me incessantly trying to get Sidney's attention *during* the game so he'd wave at her fucking kid (Really, lady? REALLY.) and the two dudes behind me quipping nonsensical BS like they had never watched hockey before, "Wow, do you see how fast they go in and out of the benches? It's mere seconds! I wonder exactly how many seconds...", it was annoying beyond belief.

Said mom wouldn't shut up the entire game either. To her very young kid, "See how no one is just waiting for the puck to come to them? No one is just standing around?" Gahhhh.

During non-stop action right in front of us at one point, she turns to her husband and actually says, "So, honey, how are the Bruins doing so far this season?" WTF. He waves her off, very "not now, bitch", as he continues to watch the play in front of us. Are you freaking kidding me?? OOH LAWD.
 
 
#84 Stoosh 2009-11-11 14:53
Quoting Matt Eager:
"X isn't making the Y" gets thrown around a lot here, but truly, Bourque isn't making December.

Offtopicblog, this is goddamn awesome:

downgoesbrown.com/.../...


I love the "Dammit, Pronger!" one. Outstanding.
 
 
#85 HYJYNX 2009-11-11 15:02
i dunno... caputi had more of an impact in the 2 or 3 games he played last season than bourque has had in 10.

if you're a forward, you need to help your line produce points if you aren't scoring goals yourself, or be a shut down defensive stud who can log PK minutes.

bourque is sort of like a defenseman, in that he plays a whole game and you dont even see or notice him that much. and that dont cut it for a forward.

WE NEED THE SUPERSTAR, plain & simple.

I think this team misses Mad Max as much as Geno & Gonch right now, honestly.
 
 
#86 fleuryous 2009-11-11 20:11
Dude, Caputi scored a goal on his first NHL shift ever, Buries It style.

Unreal expectation to live up to for anyone. haha
 
 
#87 VSack 2009-11-11 22:47
The only NHL kid I care about is Austin. Job Master Buries It and prepare to reap the whirlwind.

Go Pens. Stop losing DMen.
 

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