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#1 Dick Jackman 2009-12-05 10:54


Completely irrelevant. Just thought it would be appreciated.
 
 
#2 lefty58 2009-12-05 11:22
So pumped for the game today!
 
 
#3 SuperstarMax 2009-12-05 11:22
Quoting Dick Jackman:


Completely irrelevant. Just thought it would be appreciated.


hahaha. that's hillarious. i appreciate it
 
 
#4 monkeydog 2009-12-05 11:31
@ Rage from last post -- According to the PG, Bourque has until noon today to clear waivers and then can be sent to WBS.

www.post-gazette.com/.../1018461-100.stm
 
 
#5 dps2002 2009-12-05 11:39
Quoting monkeydog:
@ Rage from last post -- According to the PG, Bourque has until noon today to clear waivers and then can be sent to WBS.

www.post-gazette.com/.../1018461-100.stm


The conventional wisdom that I'm reading is that one way or another, Chris Bourque will find himself in the American Hockey League this weekend. If the only team that puts in a waiver claim for Bourque is Washington, then WSH can send him right to Hershey without exposing him to waivers again. If no one claims Bourque, then yes...he would likely find himself in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton.

If, however, for some ungodly reason, another NHL team claims Bourque, then all bets are off and Bourque stays in the big-boy league.
 
 
#6 Dick Jackman 2009-12-05 11:40
Quoting SuperstarMax:
Quoting Dick Jackman:


Completely irrelevant. Just thought it would be appreciated.


hahaha. that's hillarious. i appreciate it

Buries it bless Stumble.
 
 
#7 Dick Jackman 2009-12-05 11:43
Quoting dps2002:
Quoting monkeydog:
@ Rage from last post -- According to the PG, Bourque has until noon today to clear waivers and then can be sent to WBS.

www.post-gazette.com/.../1018461-100.stm


The conventional wisdom that I'm reading is that one way or another, Chris Bourque will find himself in the American Hockey League this weekend. If the only team that puts in a waiver claim for Bourque is Washington, then WSH can send him right to Hershey without exposing him to waivers again. If no one claims Bourque, then yes...he would likely find himself in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton.

If, however, for some ungodly reason, another NHL team claims Bourque, then all bets are off and Bourque stays in the big-boy league.


I'd love to have Bourque play for WBS, personally. He needs development, and with the team this year, there's room. Tangradi, Caputi, Bayda, Mr. Earp, Lovejoy, and Engelladsofnsd are all NHL ready players, and he does have some skill (he tore shit up in minors) and playing with those guys are sure to help him find his place, especially since they operate the same as the Pens.
 
 
#8 dps2002 2009-12-05 11:46
Quoting Dick Jackman:
I'd love to have Bourque play for WBS, personally. He needs development, and with the team this year, there's room. Tangradi, Caputi, Bayda, Mr. Earp, Lovejoy, and Engelladsofnsd are all NHL ready players, and he does have some skill (he tore shit up in minors) and playing with those guys are sure to help him find his place, especially since they operate the same as the Pens.


I agree with you 100%, which is why I'm riding an emotional tightrope right now. I know Bourque was originally Washington's, and I'm pretty sure they'd love to have him back in the fold. WSH claiming him and sending him to Hershey makes an already stacked Hershey team that much better.

As I stated yesterday in c-blog: The best-case is that he clears; the worst-case is if WSH takes him back and sends him to Hershey. The middle-case, however, is if some other team takes him.
 
 
#9 Dick Jackman 2009-12-05 11:55
Quoting dps2002:
Quoting Dick Jackman:
I'd love to have Bourque play for WBS, personally. He needs development, and with the team this year, there's room. Tangradi, Caputi, Bayda, Mr. Earp, Lovejoy, and Engelladsofnsd are all NHL ready players, and he does have some skill (he tore shit up in minors) and playing with those guys are sure to help him find his place, especially since they operate the same as the Pens.


I agree with you 100%, which is why I'm riding an emotional tightrope right now. I know Bourque was originally Washington's, and I'm pretty sure they'd love to have him back in the fold. WSH claiming him and sending him to Hershey makes an already stacked Hershey team that much better.

As I stated yesterday in c-blog: The best-case is that he clears; the worst-case is if WSH takes him back and sends him to Hershey. The middle-case, however, is if some other team takes him.


I'm with you on that. Washington doesn't need him (in all fairness, we don't either), and if they do take him back, it will be in spite. Just cause they're fags.
If anyone takes him though, it will probably be a basement-class western team.

I was sad when Biznasty got picked up, I'll probably shit if Bourque does.

EDIT: Just a little more than an hour before he clears waivers.
 
 
#10 PensFan2166 2009-12-05 11:55
Quoting Dick Jackman:
I'd love to have Bourque play for WBS, personally. He needs development, and with the team this year, there's room. Tangradi, Caputi, Bayda, Mr. Earp, Lovejoy, and Engelladsofnsd are all NHL ready players, and he does have some skill (he tore shit up in minors) and playing with those guys are sure to help him find his place, especially since they operate the same as the Pens.

I really think it is way to early to say Eric Tangradi and Luca Caputi are NHL ready. If they were NHL ready, they're playing in Pittsburgh right now and Chris Bourque is never picked up off waivers. Also, of they were ready for sustained NHL duty, they would've been called up instead of Mark Letestu and Chris Connor. Tangradi is in his first professional season (and spent much of it with an injury) and Caputi is only in his second professional season. Yes, Caputi scored a goal in a cup of coffee last season, but he looked decidedly "meh" for much of the 5 games he was up. I'm not saying these guys won't be studs soon, but given that Sid, Letang & Staal all made the jump from juniors to the NHL, the Pens aren't a team which is shy to play young players if they're proven NHL ready.
 
 
#11 Dick Jackman 2009-12-05 11:59
Quoting PensFan2166:
Quoting Dick Jackman:
I'd love to have Bourque play for WBS, personally. He needs development, and with the team this year, there's room. Tangradi, Caputi, Bayda, Mr. Earp, Lovejoy, and Engelladsofnsd are all NHL ready players, and he does have some skill (he tore shit up in minors) and playing with those guys are sure to help him find his place, especially since they operate the same as the Pens.

I really think it is way to early to say Eric Tangradi and Luca Caputi are NHL ready. If they were NHL ready, they're playing in Pittsburgh right now and Chris Bourque is never picked up off waivers. Also, of they were ready for sustained NHL duty, they would've been called up instead of Mark Letestu and Chris Connor. Tangradi is in his first professional season (and spent much of it with an injury) and Caputi is only in his second professional season. Yes, Caputi scored a goal in a cup of coffee last season, but he looked decidedly "meh" for much of the 5 games he was up. I'm not saying these guys won't be studs soon, but given that Sid, Letang & Staal all made the jump from juniors to the NHL, the Pens aren't a team which is shy to play young players if they're proven NHL ready.


Much like Bourque though, they want them to get ready to play. Why put them in the NHL so early if they have a chance at getting injured? Also, why put a young guy like Tangradi into a new environment when he's still getting used to this one? And I guess you are right, they aren't COMPLETELY NHL ready, completely being the key word, but I can guarantee that they'd be more efficient than some of the guys who manage to make it in the NHL.
 
 
#12 akus 2009-12-05 12:06
Quote:
Why put them in the NHL so early if they have a chance at getting injured?


huh?

Quote:
Also, why put a young guy like Tangradi into a new environment when he's still getting used to this one?


huh?

Am i the only one scratching my head?
 
 
#13 Dick Jackman 2009-12-05 12:09
Quoting akus:
Quote:
Why put them in the NHL so early if they have a chance at getting injured?


huh?

Quote:
Also, why put a young guy like Tangradi into a new environment when he's still getting used to this one?


huh?

Am i the only one scratching my head?


What I'm saying is, Tangradi's still getting used to his team in WBS, so why add on the awkwardness of another team?

And you really can't develop a player on IR, and you and I both know the NHL is faster, more physical, and contains more Leadership than the AHL.
 
 
#14 PensFan2166 2009-12-05 12:12
Quoting Dick Jackman:
Much like Bourque though, they want them to get ready to play. Why put them in the NHL so early if they have a chance at getting injured? Also, why put a young guy like Tangradi into a new environment when he's still getting used to this one? And I guess you are right, they aren't COMPLETELY NHL ready, completely being the key word, but I can guarantee that they'd be more efficient than some of the guys who manage to make it in the NHL.

Saying you guarantee that is a bold statement. There's really no telling how a young kid will react to seeing NHL ice for the first time. And there are countless examples of kids whose careers go off-track because they're rushed to the NHL. Again, I think Luca Caputi and Eric Tangradi will be studs for the Pens in the not-too-distant future, but I think saying they're NHL-ready is putting too large an expectation on them before those two (especially Tangradi) have had a chance to show whether or not they can dominate AHL players.

And if the Pens need/want them "to get ready to play," that indicates precisely that they aren't ready for the NHL yet.
 
 
#15 Dick Jackman 2009-12-05 12:15
Quoting PensFan2166:
Quoting Dick Jackman:
Much like Bourque though, they want them to get ready to play. Why put them in the NHL so early if they have a chance at getting injured? Also, why put a young guy like Tangradi into a new environment when he's still getting used to this one? And I guess you are right, they aren't COMPLETELY NHL ready, completely being the key word, but I can guarantee that they'd be more efficient than some of the guys who manage to make it in the NHL.

Saying you guarantee that is a bold statement. There's really no telling how a young kid will react to seeing NHL ice for the first time. And there are countless examples of kids whose careers go off-track because they're rushed to the NHL. Again, I think Luca Caputi and Eric Tangradi will be studs for the Pens in the not-too-distant future, but I think saying they're NHL-ready is putting too large an expectation on them before those two (especially Tangradi) have had a chance to show whether or not they can dominate AHL players.

And if the Pens need/want them "to get ready to play," that indicates precisely that they aren't ready for the NHL yet.


Look at Crusher. That's the point I'm trying to make.

It would be better to leave the debate of how NHL ready they are at TBD, but I can get your point on the matter, and you are correct. But looking at his preseason and rookie camp, Tangradi does impress. So does Caputi.

And also, the statement I made about getting ready to play was the result of spending the night playing Peggle on my iPod. I meant to say that they want to MAKE SURE that they are ready to play.
 
 
#16 dps2002 2009-12-05 12:20
Stat lines (through yesterday):

Caputi: 21 games played, 9 goals, 8 assists, 27 PIM.

Tangradi: 13 games played, 3 goals, 2 assists, 7 PIM.

For comparison.
 
 
#17 Dick Jackman 2009-12-05 12:25
Quoting dps2002:
Stat lines (through yesterday):

Caputi: 21 games played, 9 goals, 8 assists, 27 PIM.

Tangradi: 13 games played, 3 goals, 2 assists, 7 PIM.

For comparison.


That is pretty good though. Saying that WBS has only played 21 games this season, the stats would average up to:

Tangradi: 50 GP, 19 goals, 12 assists. (not sure if I did that right).
Caputi:82 GP, 35 goals, 31 assists.
 
 
#18 dying alive 2009-12-05 12:31
Ominous news...Sid left practice early today and Letang didn't practice at all:

penguins.nhl.com/.../...
 
 
#19 PensFan2166 2009-12-05 12:36
Quoting dying alive:
Ominous news...Sid left practice early today and Letang didn't practice at all:

penguins.nhl.com/.../...

Only worry if "maintenance day" is used with either of them.
 
 
#20 SuperstarMax 2009-12-05 12:48
Quoting dying alive:
Ominous news...Sid left practice early today and Letang didn't practice at all:

penguins.nhl.com/.../...


I wouldn't get too hyped up about this, but if something does progress, for the worst, I'd be suprised

*edit*

Okay, Bing's out, I'm suprised
 
 
#21 jayness 2009-12-05 12:53
Bing's out for tonight.

penguins.nhl.com/.../...
 
 
#22 dps2002 2009-12-05 12:59
Quoting jayness:
Bing's out for tonight.

penguins.nhl.com/.../...


Better to miss one game and get the groin right than to play through it and miss significant time later.

I don't suppose it's too late to pull Bourque back off waivers?
 
 
#23 Fitzy 2009-12-05 13:07
Malkin's going to beast it up tonight
 
 
#24 FDeuce 2009-12-05 13:30
Quoting jayness:
Bing's out for tonight.

penguins.nhl.com/.../...


im going up to wbs for the baby pens tonight so hopefully they don't recall caputi, because i want to see him play.

john curry bobblehead night woo!
 
 
#25 The_Goon_Blogger 2009-12-05 13:30
Bourque claimed by Washington.

Seems you clowns need a new scapegoat. But, I'm sure Staff will give you some fresh Kool-Aid. Maybe it'll be a relevant player this time?

Wooo.
 
 
#26 ericp 2009-12-05 13:35
Letestu called up to fill in for Sid tonight
 
 
#27 coffeytalk 2009-12-05 13:36
man oh man. so glad to have worn the Bourque jersey during his last game as a 'guin. woooo and hooooo

so now what, kids? who yinz gonna tear down next 'n at?
 
 
#28 akus 2009-12-05 13:41
Quoting Fitzy:
Malkin's going to beast it up tonight


Geno did it last time the Pens played the Hawks and Sid missed that game also.

If Sid's groin was bothering him the last few games.....you could have fooled me.
 
 
#29 The_Goon_Blogger 2009-12-05 13:41
Personally I think we should job Letestu. He's essentially there for the same reason Bourque. Letestu doesn't have any NHL goals as a Penguin, or ANY NHL goals for that matter...OR ANY NHL points for that matter.

He's clearly a joke.
 
 
#30 coffeytalk 2009-12-05 13:45
LeTest Tube.
 
 
#31 Fitzy 2009-12-05 13:53
Quoting akus:
Quoting Fitzy:
Malkin's going to beast it up tonight


Geno did it last time the Pens played the Hawks and Sid missed that game also.

If Sid's groin was bothering him the last few games.....you could have fooled me.


11 points in 3 games with a bum groin is just a lie..he just wants to take a break so Ovechkin can catch up ^_^
 
 
#32 Fitzy 2009-12-05 14:00
 
 
#33 PensFan2166 2009-12-05 16:12
Quoting The_Goon_Blogge r:
Personally I think we should job Letestu. He's essentially there for the same reason Bourque. Letestu doesn't have any NHL goals as a Penguin, or ANY NHL goals for that matter...OR ANY NHL points for that matter.

He's clearly a joke.

Folks here won't job him unless staff tells them to.
 

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