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Quoting PensFan2166:As long as the team stays successful and they have a chance to win most years - and of course if the salary cap situation permits it - I expect both Sid & Geno to retire as Pens. I don't see either of them requesting a trade as long as they can win. They both seem like stand-up enough guys that they can put aside any egos in order to win.
The fact that both of them seem to value winning above all else definitely plays to the Pens advantage. They've got an owner with ridiculously deep pockets (Burkle), an owner who most of them probably admired as kids and still look up to now (Mario), and a GM who is honest and treats them with respect (Rejean). They've committed to winning and spending to the cap year in and year out and the deal they got with the new arena will allow them to do it. They're locking up guys long term, and not just Sid & Geno. Throw in the fact that Pittsburgh is a huge sports town, a great place to live and we treat our athletes well but don't stalk them like the paparazzi and you'd have to think the chances are better than average.
Also, the mentor/protegee relationship that Mario and Sid have going on can't hurt either. Sid has his own family, but he's basically a part of Mario's family as well at this point and he seems to really enjoy that. Hey, I'll take any little advantage we can get when it comes to keeping him here his entire career. Now only if he'd commit to staying by moving out of Mario's wood-paneled basement and buying his own place, am I right haters?




I think the same goes for Malkin. He genuinely seems to like it here and was especially impacted by the way his mom and dad were treated when they were here. And contrary to what the rumor-mongering websites want to believe, he has not once expressed an interest to go to another team so he can occupy the spotlight that he currently shares here with Crosby. I think he knows that because of Sid's presence on the team, there are certain things he'll never have to do here in terms of obligations as the go-to-guy for the local media. That allowed him to get into a comfort zone relatively quickly.

Does this mean the Koon is maybe getting ready to come back?




On an unrelated note: Stoosh and DA, you said you graduated HS in 1994. That's the year I got married. Man, I feel old.

Quoting PensKY:Does this mean the Koon is maybe getting ready to come back?
Cooke will be back Saturday, maybe they figured they didn't need Bourque (any Bourque) hanging around eating up all the nachos in Mario's box.

I don't wish to de-rail the Chris Bourque train but I have an Igloo parking question.
Is the South Lot open to the public?
I am taking my mother on Saturday to her first ever Pens game at the Arena( yes, I know I am the bestest son ever).
I always parked in the East Lot and walked down. she has issues walking far distances and has a Handicapped Placard and the South Lot is listed as Handicapped Parking.


As far as I see it:
Best case scenario: He clears waivers. Then the way is open for him to be demoted to WBS and start kicking ass for MY team.
Middle-case scenario: Some team other than Washington claims him, or WSH claims him and keeps him on the Capitals. Then it's live and let live.
Worst-case scenario: WSH claims him and, since they would be claiming him back, sends him outright to Hershey. I may just punch something if this happens.


Quoting Stoosh:I think the same goes for Malkin. He genuinely seems to like it here and was especially impacted by the way his mom and dad were treated when they were here. And contrary to what the rumor-mongering websites want to believe, he has not once expressed an interest to go to another team so he can occupy the spotlight that he currently shares here with Crosby. I think he knows that because of Sid's presence on the team, there are certain things he'll never have to do here in terms of obligations as the go-to-guy for the local media. That allowed him to get into a comfort zone relatively quickly.
If anything Malkin has proven to have a great sense of humor but to be shy at the same time. He doesn't seem to mind doing short interviews these days but he doesn't seek them out. Anyway, the notion that he's in Sid's shadow is bogus. Nobody here treats them as #1 and #2. He gets just as much attention as Sid does from the fans but Sid gets stuck doing all of the media dirty work. He's starting to do commercials for Versus right along with Sid. If he was in the shadows for any reason the past few years, it was because of his language difficulties.
He does seem blown away by the reaction his parents have gotten.
"I hope he wins the scoring title. I'm enjoying playing with him and seeing his leadership. We will follow him."

I think I might be one of the few around here who doesn't care where he ends up.Don't hate the guy and I don't like him either.Could he develop? Sure. Is it possible this is as good as Chris Bourque gets? Sure.
If he goes to WBS I'm ok with that. If he goes somewhere else I'm ok with that also. Fact is, as of right now,he just doesn't matter that much. It's kind of a much to do about nothing thing for me.
Oh, and a '93 grad here. The big 35 a few weeks out.


"I hope he wins the scoring title. I'm enjoying playing with him and seeing his leadership. We will follow him."

Hockey may be a game of sacrifice on the ice, but that selflessness rarely shows itself at the bargaining table. When the term "hometown discount" is tossed around, it usually means a haircut of a couple hundred thousand, maybe a million (case in point: Sidney Crosby's well-deserved but nonetheless limiting $8.7 million annual hit in Pittsburgh). Everybody smiles, talks about how much the extra cap flexibility means to the team, and a few pennies are pushed from one pile to another. But Marc Savard, who has earned $5 million a year as Boston's leading scorer over the past three seasons, made a more sizable concession. As a free agent this summer, he would have attracted offers in the $6-$7 million range. But the seven-year, $28.05 million accord announced this week proved him to be the rare player who is truly willing to take one for the team. Rather than follow ex-linemate Phil Kessel's advice to maximize his take in the open market (and, you know, maybe join him in Toronto), Savard actively campaigned for a deal to stay with the Bruins that actually cut his cap footprint. The pact was heavily front-loaded, paying him $7 million each of the first two years. After that, it's $6.5 million, $5 million, $1.5 million and then just $525,000 over the final two years. In essence, the 32-year-old and the team are betrothed for just the next four years. If his productivity slips before or during the last three seasons of the deal, the Bruins can send him out to pasture with a readily absorbable buyout. The irony of it is rich. Savard, a guy ripped for much of his career as the epitome of me-first selfishness, proves to be the game's ultimate team player where it matters most these days. Good on him. Now the pressure's on Boston GM Peter Chiarelli to do something important with the cap space to justify Savard's sacrifice.
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That and the fact that he's taking a roster spot from one of our young prospects that actually will mean something to this team's future.

I hardly call Wyatt Smith, Jesse Boulerice, and Wade Brookbank young prospects who the Baby Pens can't afford to sit semi-regularly in order to get Chris Bourque out on the ice.

Quoting Steel_Town_Feve r:That and the fact that he's taking a roster spot from one of our young prospects that actually will mean something to this team's future.
I hardly call Wyatt Smith, Jesse Boulerice, and Wade Brookbank young prospects who the Baby Pens can't afford to sit semi-regularly in order to get Chris Bourque out on the ice.
And seriously, if Bourque ends up becoming a star on some other team (no matter how unlikely that may be), so many of you fuckers will bitch incessantly that the Pens let him go and will call for Shero's head. So many of you have spent so much fucking time this season bitching about a fucking non-factor. Holy shit, imagine if he was playing more than 5-6 minutes a night - you all would be bigger emo-fag cutters than Ryan fucking Miller.

I'm trying to come up with a contradictory response to that, and I can't. The only reason Boulerice and Brookbank are getting regular time is because of our own slate of injuries (Veilleux, Conner, Bayda, and a few others). Smith, though, has some game.


So many of you have spent so much fucking time this season bitching about a fucking non-factor. Holy shit, imagine if he was playing more than 5-6 minutes a night - you all would be bigger emo-fag cutters than Ryan fucking Miller.





@Steel_Town_Fev er - Bourque wasn't taking any NHL playing time from Luca Caputi or Eric Tangradi. This is Caputi's second professional season and Tangradi's first. There is absolutely no point in rushing them to the NHL when they've barely gotten used to the AHL level. Let them get some seasoning down there.
If Bourque was really taking an NHL roster spot from Caputi or Tangradi, those guys would've been called up earlier this season instead of Mark Letestu and Chris Conner. Bank on it.

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downgoesbrown.com/.../nhl-injuries.html


So many of you have spent so much fucking time this season bitching about a fucking non-factor. Holy shit, imagine if he was playing more than 5-6 minutes a night - you all would be bigger emo-fag cutters than Ryan fucking Miller.

Quote:So many of you have spent so much fucking time this season bitching about a fucking non-factor. Holy shit, imagine if he was playing more than 5-6 minutes a night - you all would be bigger emo-fag cutters than Ryan fucking Miller.
Wha?
I personally would of enjoyed watching a midget play on the 4th line than Bourque.
oh wait...

From the previous thread...
Quoting dying alive:Quoting PensFan2166:As long as the team stays successful and they have a chance to win most years - and of course if the salary cap situation permits it - I expect both Sid & Geno to retire as Pens. I don't see either of them requesting a trade as long as they can win. They both seem like stand-up enough guys that they can put aside any egos in order to win.
The fact that both of them seem to value winning above all else definitely plays to the Pens advantage. They've got an owner with ridiculously deep pockets (Burkle), an owner who most of them probably admired as kids and still look up to now (Mario), and a GM who is honest and treats them with respect (Rejean). They've committed to winning and spending to the cap year in and year out and the deal they got with the new arena will allow them to do it. They're locking up guys long term, and not just Sid & Geno. Throw in the fact that Pittsburgh is a huge sports town, a great place to live and we treat our athletes well but don't stalk them like the paparazzi and you'd have to think the chances are better than average.
Also, the mentor/protegee relationship that Mario and Sid have going on can't hurt either. Sid has his own family, but he's basically a part of Mario's family as well at this point and he seems to really enjoy that. Hey, I'll take any little advantage we can get when it comes to keeping him here his entire career. Now only if he'd commit to staying by moving out of Mario's wood-paneled basement and buying his own place, am I right haters?
I have no real problem with this loophole that many teams have used to circumvent the "spirit" of the cap because it still accomplishes what the cap was designed in part to do - allow each team a chance to retain its own talent. Most of the players on the roster aren't getting these deals. By and large, many of them are going to homegrown talents who are considered by organizations AND FANS to be franchise-caliber players. Fans want to see these players stick around and not have to worry about Sidney Crosby or John Tavares one day playing for the Rangers, or Zetterberg one day suiting up for the Blackhawks. These kind of deals help sell tickets, too.
I don't see Crosby ever wearing another team's jersey. He's said hundreds of times - unprompted - that he loves playing and living in Pittsburgh, that he appreciates the fact that the locals allow him to maintain his privacy, and he's said that it reminds him a lot of where he grew up.
I think the same goes for Malkin. He genuinely seems to like it here and was especially impacted by the way his mom and dad were treated when they were here. And contrary to what the rumor-mongering websites want to believe, he has not once expressed an interest to go to another team so he can occupy the spotlight that he currently shares here with Crosby. I think he knows that because of Sid's presence on the team, there are certain things he'll never have to do here in terms of obligations as the go-to-guy for the local media. That allowed him to get into a comfort zone relatively quickly.
If anything else, I could see Malkin leaving the NHL in general quite a bit earlier than Sid, going back to Magnitogorsk and playing out his career there. He's made comments in the past that indicate how important his hometown is to him and how he would eventually like to still play there. I think that may depend on how his career here pans out; if he wins a slew of Cups over the next ten years, I could see that happening.


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downgoesbrown.com/.../nhl-injuries.html


Quoting Stoosh:From the previous thread...
Quoting dying alive:Quoting PensFan2166:As long as the team stays successful and they have a chance to win most years - and of course if the salary cap situation permits it - I expect both Sid & Geno to retire as Pens. I don't see either of them requesting a trade as long as they can win. They both seem like stand-up enough guys that they can put aside any egos in order to win.
The fact that both of them seem to value winning above all else definitely plays to the Pens advantage. They've got an owner with ridiculously deep pockets (Burkle), an owner who most of them probably admired as kids and still look up to now (Mario), and a GM who is honest and treats them with respect (Rejean). They've committed to winning and spending to the cap year in and year out and the deal they got with the new arena will allow them to do it. They're locking up guys long term, and not just Sid & Geno. Throw in the fact that Pittsburgh is a huge sports town, a great place to live and we treat our athletes well but don't stalk them like the paparazzi and you'd have to think the chances are better than average.
Also, the mentor/protegee relationship that Mario and Sid have going on can't hurt either. Sid has his own family, but he's basically a part of Mario's family as well at this point and he seems to really enjoy that. Hey, I'll take any little advantage we can get when it comes to keeping him here his entire career. Now only if he'd commit to staying by moving out of Mario's wood-paneled basement and buying his own place, am I right haters?
I have no real problem with this loophole that many teams have used to circumvent the "spirit" of the cap because it still accomplishes what the cap was designed in part to do - allow each team a chance to retain its own talent. Most of the players on the roster aren't getting these deals. By and large, many of them are going to homegrown talents who are considered by organizations AND FANS to be franchise-caliber players. Fans want to see these players stick around and not have to worry about Sidney Crosby or John Tavares one day playing for the Rangers, or Zetterberg one day suiting up for the Blackhawks. These kind of deals help sell tickets, too.
I don't see Crosby ever wearing another team's jersey. He's said hundreds of times - unprompted - that he loves playing and living in Pittsburgh, that he appreciates the fact that the locals allow him to maintain his privacy, and he's said that it reminds him a lot of where he grew up.
I think the same goes for Malkin. He genuinely seems to like it here and was especially impacted by the way his mom and dad were treated when they were here. And contrary to what the rumor-mongering websites want to believe, he has not once expressed an interest to go to another team so he can occupy the spotlight that he currently shares here with Crosby. I think he knows that because of Sid's presence on the team, there are certain things he'll never have to do here in terms of obligations as the go-to-guy for the local media. That allowed him to get into a comfort zone relatively quickly.
If anything else, I could see Malkin leaving the NHL in general quite a bit earlier than Sid, going back to Magnitogorsk and playing out his career there. He's made comments in the past that indicate how important his hometown is to him and how he would eventually like to still play there. I think that may depend on how his career here pans out; if he wins a slew of Cups over the next ten years, I could see that happening.
Commit..
I have a hard time seeing Crosby leaving the Penguins weather it be for money or to be closer to home. Like it was said he has a close bond with Mario and because of that I'm sure he gets to put his 2 cents in on what he wants for the team.
I would like to think Malkin will stay a Penguin as well but I'm not as sure about him as I am Crosby. (Before reading this next sentence please note that I do not think Malkin is presently anything like Jaromir Jagr) Jagr was a fan favorite and liked playing in Pittsburgh until the team started going down hill. I'm not saying that Malkin will "die alive" in Pittsburgh and request a trade, but nobody thought Jagr would leave the team.
Trade Crosby now he's a team killer anyway

whats the link to get Charlie Printouts?

But now I have to wonder. Who gets the press box time when Kunitz comes back?

Here are some pictures that were posted over at LGP of the inside of the new arena. I'm linking to the thread instead of grabbing them and reposting because they're from somebody's Facebook:
letsgopens.com/.../...
It actually looks like an arena inside. Is it me, or does the upper bowl look like it's not nearly as far from the ice as it is in some newer arenas? I know it's tough to gauge because the seats aren't even in yet, but it's not nearly as spread out as I expected it to be.



He left upwards of probably $2-3 million PER YEAR

NHL Network reports that Charles Foster Ofdensen look-a-like John Stevens "has been relieved of his duties".
NHL Network reports that Charles Foster Ofdensen look-a-like John Stevens "has been relieved of his duties".




This has absolutely nothing to do with hockey, but I find it fucking hilarious. All of the reviews are the funny parts.
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I would like to think Malkin will stay a Penguin as well but I'm not as sure about him as I am Crosby. (Before reading this next sentence please note that I do not think Malkin is presently anything like Jaromir Jagr) Jagr was a fan favorite and liked playing in Pittsburgh until the team started going down hill. I'm not saying that Malkin will "die alive" in Pittsburgh and request a trade, but nobody thought Jagr would leave the team.

this article from Icethetics is saying Pens will have a new 3rd next season. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
icethetics.info/.../...

Woooooooooo!!!! !
Tired of watching him bring a boatload of suck to the rink every night.

Quoting shelton589:whats the link to get Charlie Printouts?
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this article from Icethetics is saying Pens will have a new 3rd next season. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
icethetics.info/.../...