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Friday, 04 December 2009 02:07 pm
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Somehow this is worthy of its own post.
Or maybe not.
From Bob McKenzie on Twitter.
Will he end up in WBS?
Will the Caps take him back?
How many times will Ray Bourque's name come up when discussing this development?
So many questions.
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#2
2009-12-04 14:21
As far as I see it:
Best case scenario: He clears waivers. Then the way is open for him to be demoted to WBS and start kicking ass for MY team.
Middle-case scenario: Some team other than Washington claims him, or WSH claims him and keeps him on the Capitals. Then it's live and let live.
Worst-case scenario: WSH claims him and, since they would be claiming him back, sends him outright to Hershey. I may just punch something if this happens.
Best case scenario: He clears waivers. Then the way is open for him to be demoted to WBS and start kicking ass for MY team.
Middle-case scenario: Some team other than Washington claims him, or WSH claims him and keeps him on the Capitals. Then it's live and let live.
Worst-case scenario: WSH claims him and, since they would be claiming him back, sends him outright to Hershey. I may just punch something if this happens.
#8
2009-12-04 14:56
Woooooooooo!!!! !
Tired of watching him bring a boatload of suck to the rink every night.
Tired of watching him bring a boatload of suck to the rink every night.
#9
2009-12-04 14:57
From the previous thread...
Quoting dying alive:
I have no real problem with this loophole that many teams have used to circumvent the "spirit" of the cap because it still accomplishes what the cap was designed in part to do - allow each team a chance to retain its own talent. Most of the players on the roster aren't getting these deals. By and large, many of them are going to homegrown talents who are considered by organizations AND FANS to be franchise-caliber players. Fans want to see these players stick around and not have to worry about Sidney Crosby or John Tavares one day playing for the Rangers, or Zetterberg one day suiting up for the Blackhawks. These kind of deals help sell tickets, too.
I don't see Crosby ever wearing another team's jersey. He's said hundreds of times - unprompted - that he loves playing and living in Pittsburgh, that he appreciates the fact that the locals allow him to maintain his privacy, and he's said that it reminds him a lot of where he grew up.
I think the same goes for Malkin. He genuinely seems to like it here and was especially impacted by the way his mom and dad were treated when they were here. And contrary to what the rumor-mongering websites want to believe, he has not once expressed an interest to go to another team so he can occupy the spotlight that he currently shares here with Crosby. I think he knows that because of Sid's presence on the team, there are certain things he'll never have to do here in terms of obligations as the go-to-guy for the local media. That allowed him to get into a comfort zone relatively quickly.
If anything else, I could see Malkin leaving the NHL in general quite a bit earlier than Sid, going back to Magnitogorsk and playing out his career there. He's made comments in the past that indicate how important his hometown is to him and how he would eventually like to still play there. I think that may depend on how his career here pans out; if he wins a slew of Cups over the next ten years, I could see that happening.
Quoting dying alive:
Quoting PensFan2166:As long as the team stays successful and they have a chance to win most years - and of course if the salary cap situation permits it - I expect both Sid & Geno to retire as Pens. I don't see either of them requesting a trade as long as they can win. They both seem like stand-up enough guys that they can put aside any egos in order to win.
The fact that both of them seem to value winning above all else definitely plays to the Pens advantage. They've got an owner with ridiculously deep pockets (Burkle), an owner who most of them probably admired as kids and still look up to now (Mario), and a GM who is honest and treats them with respect (Rejean). They've committed to winning and spending to the cap year in and year out and the deal they got with the new arena will allow them to do it. They're locking up guys long term, and not just Sid & Geno. Throw in the fact that Pittsburgh is a huge sports town, a great place to live and we treat our athletes well but don't stalk them like the paparazzi and you'd have to think the chances are better than average.
Also, the mentor/protegee relationship that Mario and Sid have going on can't hurt either. Sid has his own family, but he's basically a part of Mario's family as well at this point and he seems to really enjoy that. Hey, I'll take any little advantage we can get when it comes to keeping him here his entire career. Now only if he'd commit to staying by moving out of Mario's wood-paneled basement and buying his own place, am I right haters?
I have no real problem with this loophole that many teams have used to circumvent the "spirit" of the cap because it still accomplishes what the cap was designed in part to do - allow each team a chance to retain its own talent. Most of the players on the roster aren't getting these deals. By and large, many of them are going to homegrown talents who are considered by organizations AND FANS to be franchise-caliber players. Fans want to see these players stick around and not have to worry about Sidney Crosby or John Tavares one day playing for the Rangers, or Zetterberg one day suiting up for the Blackhawks. These kind of deals help sell tickets, too.
I don't see Crosby ever wearing another team's jersey. He's said hundreds of times - unprompted - that he loves playing and living in Pittsburgh, that he appreciates the fact that the locals allow him to maintain his privacy, and he's said that it reminds him a lot of where he grew up.
I think the same goes for Malkin. He genuinely seems to like it here and was especially impacted by the way his mom and dad were treated when they were here. And contrary to what the rumor-mongering websites want to believe, he has not once expressed an interest to go to another team so he can occupy the spotlight that he currently shares here with Crosby. I think he knows that because of Sid's presence on the team, there are certain things he'll never have to do here in terms of obligations as the go-to-guy for the local media. That allowed him to get into a comfort zone relatively quickly.
If anything else, I could see Malkin leaving the NHL in general quite a bit earlier than Sid, going back to Magnitogorsk and playing out his career there. He's made comments in the past that indicate how important his hometown is to him and how he would eventually like to still play there. I think that may depend on how his career here pans out; if he wins a slew of Cups over the next ten years, I could see that happening.
#10
2009-12-04 14:59
"omg epic you guyz im sooooo glad hes gone. he was killing the team, he sucks so much. go pens i love this team!!!!!"
In truth, I'm with dps. Let's give the Baby Pens some more firepower
In truth, I'm with dps. Let's give the Baby Pens some more firepower
#12
2009-12-04 15:06
last night i muttered "i hate you chris bourque" under my breath...or so i thought. folks next to me, def serious pens fans, said "well thats mean" and "why do you hate him?" etc
i gave my reasons, ones yer all familiar with im sure. leaving out the fact that i might not hate him so much if tpb didnt have a bit of control over that part of my brain that relates to hockey.
anyway they seemed to understand my reasoning then the bro says "he's no diff than jagr"
!?!?!?
i mean c'mon now. maybe jagr quit on def plays now and again and carried the puck behind the net to lose it...often
but that is no real comparisoni mean c'mon son!!! getthefuckupout taherewiththatb ullshit
i gave my reasons, ones yer all familiar with im sure. leaving out the fact that i might not hate him so much if tpb didnt have a bit of control over that part of my brain that relates to hockey.
anyway they seemed to understand my reasoning then the bro says "he's no diff than jagr"
!?!?!?
i mean c'mon now. maybe jagr quit on def plays now and again and carried the puck behind the net to lose it...often
but that is no real comparisoni mean c'mon son!!! getthefuckupout taherewiththatb ullshit
#14
2009-12-04 15:10
I hope no one claims him. I think he has potential, just not ready for prime time yet. I wonder if they will recall someone from WBS, or if they will go with 12 healthy forwards on the roster for now. From this mornings PG, it sounds like #14 Kunitz will be out for awhile.
On an unrelated note: Stoosh and DA, you said you graduated HS in 1994. That's the year I got married. Man, I feel old.
On an unrelated note: Stoosh and DA, you said you graduated HS in 1994. That's the year I got married. Man, I feel old.
#15
2009-12-04 15:10
Quoting Stoosh:
If anything Malkin has proven to have a great sense of humor but to be shy at the same time. He doesn't seem to mind doing short interviews these days but he doesn't seek them out. Anyway, the notion that he's in Sid's shadow is bogus. Nobody here treats them as #1 and #2. He gets just as much attention as Sid does from the fans but Sid gets stuck doing all of the media dirty work. He's starting to do commercials for Versus right along with Sid. If he was in the shadows for any reason the past few years, it was because of his language difficulties.
He does seem blown away by the reaction his parents have gotten.
I think the same goes for Malkin. He genuinely seems to like it here and was especially impacted by the way his mom and dad were treated when they were here. And contrary to what the rumor-mongering websites want to believe, he has not once expressed an interest to go to another team so he can occupy the spotlight that he currently shares here with Crosby. I think he knows that because of Sid's presence on the team, there are certain things he'll never have to do here in terms of obligations as the go-to-guy for the local media. That allowed him to get into a comfort zone relatively quickly.
If anything Malkin has proven to have a great sense of humor but to be shy at the same time. He doesn't seem to mind doing short interviews these days but he doesn't seek them out. Anyway, the notion that he's in Sid's shadow is bogus. Nobody here treats them as #1 and #2. He gets just as much attention as Sid does from the fans but Sid gets stuck doing all of the media dirty work. He's starting to do commercials for Versus right along with Sid. If he was in the shadows for any reason the past few years, it was because of his language difficulties.
He does seem blown away by the reaction his parents have gotten.
#16
2009-12-04 15:12
Quoting PensKY:
Cooke will be back Saturday, maybe they figured they didn't need Bourque (any Bourque) hanging around eating up all the nachos in Mario's box.
Does this mean the Koon is maybe getting ready to come back?
Cooke will be back Saturday, maybe they figured they didn't need Bourque (any Bourque) hanging around eating up all the nachos in Mario's box.
#17
2009-12-04 15:14
Here's to hoping he'll clear and develop at WBS.
What the fuck is Bourqueblog gonna bitch about now? Or will it become the "Trade [******] joke cityskoulakunit zdupuisruppblog "?
What the fuck is Bourqueblog gonna bitch about now? Or will it become the "Trade [******] joke cityskoulakunit zdupuisruppblog "?
#18
2009-12-04 15:14
I don't wish to de-rail the Chris Bourque train but I have an Igloo parking question.
Is the South Lot open to the public?
I am taking my mother on Saturday to her first ever Pens game at the Arena( yes, I know I am the bestest son ever).
I always parked in the East Lot and walked down. she has issues walking far distances and has a Handicapped Placard and the South Lot is listed as Handicapped Parking.
Is the South Lot open to the public?
I am taking my mother on Saturday to her first ever Pens game at the Arena( yes, I know I am the bestest son ever).
I always parked in the East Lot and walked down. she has issues walking far distances and has a Handicapped Placard and the South Lot is listed as Handicapped Parking.
#20
2009-12-04 15:17
You know I'd completely forgotten that Skoulla isn't one of our starting six D men.
/random tangent regarding Mario's nachos
/random tangent regarding Mario's nachos
#21
2009-12-04 15:20
Quoting Pens Fan in MI:
If it makes you feel any more odd, I graduated 5 years after that. Of course, I'm getting my just desserts seeing kids who I held as babies graduating high school...
On an unrelated note: Stoosh and DA, you said you graduated HS in 1994. That's the year I got married. Man, I feel old.
If it makes you feel any more odd, I graduated 5 years after that. Of course, I'm getting my just desserts seeing kids who I held as babies graduating high school...
#22
2009-12-04 15:20
Quoting dying alive:
Roff. Shero's made his claim: open roster spot > Bourque. I'd love to see the dude get better, though, because fuck haters.
Man, I get a woody just thinking about Saturday.
Quoting PensKY:Does this mean the Koon is maybe getting ready to come back?
Cooke will be back Saturday, maybe they figured they didn't need Bourque (any Bourque) hanging around eating up all the nachos in Mario's box.
Roff. Shero's made his claim: open roster spot > Bourque. I'd love to see the dude get better, though, because fuck haters.
Man, I get a woody just thinking about Saturday.
#23
2009-12-04 15:21
Quoting brokenarrow:
Pretty sure the South Lot is leases only, but someone else may be able to confirm that. I believe there's handicapped parking in the East Lot too, but I guess that doesn't really help.
Edit: They may make exceptions to the leases thing for accessible parking. Your best bet is to call Mellon. Or if you end up in the East Lot, you could always let her out at Gate 1 on Mario Lemieux Place.
I don't wish to de-rail the Chris Bourque train but I have an Igloo parking question.
Is the South Lot open to the public?
I am taking my mother on Saturday to her first ever Pens game at the Arena( yes, I know I am the bestest son ever).
I always parked in the East Lot and walked down. she has issues walking far distances and has a Handicapped Placard and the South Lot is listed as Handicapped Parking.
Pretty sure the South Lot is leases only, but someone else may be able to confirm that. I believe there's handicapped parking in the East Lot too, but I guess that doesn't really help.
Edit: They may make exceptions to the leases thing for accessible parking. Your best bet is to call Mellon. Or if you end up in the East Lot, you could always let her out at Gate 1 on Mario Lemieux Place.
#24
2009-12-04 15:25
Bob Grove was on 105.9 with Tim Benz this morning and said Kunitz isn't even skating right now, so his return appears to be at least 2-3 weeks off.
More than likely, this was to make room for Cooke's return to the lineup and to get Bourque back to Wilkes-Barre.
More than likely, this was to make room for Cooke's return to the lineup and to get Bourque back to Wilkes-Barre.
#25
2009-12-04 15:26
Quoting dps2002:
Im assuming you live in NEPA, where at? Im in Clarks Summit these days.
As far as I see it:
Best case scenario: He clears waivers. Then the way is open for him to be demoted to WBS and start kicking ass for MY team.
Middle-case scenario: Some team other than Washington claims him, or WSH claims him and keeps him on the Capitals. Then it's live and let live.
Worst-case scenario: WSH claims him and, since they would be claiming him back, sends him outright to Hershey. I may just punch something if this happens.
Im assuming you live in NEPA, where at? Im in Clarks Summit these days.
#28
2009-12-04 15:28
I think I might be one of the few around here who doesn't care where he ends up.Don't hate the guy and I don't like him either.Could he develop? Sure. Is it possible this is as good as Chris Bourque gets? Sure.
If he goes to WBS I'm ok with that. If he goes somewhere else I'm ok with that also. Fact is, as of right now,he just doesn't matter that much. It's kind of a much to do about nothing thing for me.
Oh, and a '93 grad here. The big 35 a few weeks out.
If he goes to WBS I'm ok with that. If he goes somewhere else I'm ok with that also. Fact is, as of right now,he just doesn't matter that much. It's kind of a much to do about nothing thing for me.
Oh, and a '93 grad here. The big 35 a few weeks out.
#29
2009-12-04 15:32
Quoting dying alive:
Just to add to the Malkin not caring about being on the same team as Sid, he said this last night if it hasn't been seen yet...
Quote:
Quoting Stoosh:I think the same goes for Malkin. He genuinely seems to like it here and was especially impacted by the way his mom and dad were treated when they were here. And contrary to what the rumor-mongering websites want to believe, he has not once expressed an interest to go to another team so he can occupy the spotlight that he currently shares here with Crosby. I think he knows that because of Sid's presence on the team, there are certain things he'll never have to do here in terms of obligations as the go-to-guy for the local media. That allowed him to get into a comfort zone relatively quickly.
If anything Malkin has proven to have a great sense of humor but to be shy at the same time. He doesn't seem to mind doing short interviews these days but he doesn't seek them out. Anyway, the notion that he's in Sid's shadow is bogus. Nobody here treats them as #1 and #2. He gets just as much attention as Sid does from the fans but Sid gets stuck doing all of the media dirty work. He's starting to do commercials for Versus right along with Sid. If he was in the shadows for any reason the past few years, it was because of his language difficulties.
He does seem blown away by the reaction his parents have gotten.
Just to add to the Malkin not caring about being on the same team as Sid, he said this last night if it hasn't been seen yet...
Quote:
"I hope he wins the scoring title. I'm enjoying playing with him and seeing his leadership. We will follow him."
#31
2009-12-04 15:35
Quoting Mario = God:
That and the fact that he's taking a roster spot from one of our young prospects that actually will mean something to this team's future.
I think I might be one of the few around here who doesn't care where he ends up.Don't hate the guy and I don't like him either.Could he develop? Sure. Is it possible this is as good as Chris Bourque gets? Sure.
If he goes to WBS I'm ok with that. If he goes somewhere else I'm ok with that also. Fact is, as of right now,he just doesn't matter that much. It's kind of a much to do about nothing thing for me.
Oh, and a '93 grad here. The big 35 a few weeks out.
That and the fact that he's taking a roster spot from one of our young prospects that actually will mean something to this team's future.
#32
2009-12-04 15:43
With all the injuries in the NHL right now, there is no way that Bourque clears waivers. No tears here. He was brutal.
On a side note, I think I'm beginning to experience a "Penguin Hockey Refractory Period". For at least 5 minutes after any Penguin powerplay, I have to take a step back and get recharged. I know we got one last night, but they are an absolute mess out there. Put Granato in charge and fire Yeo.
On a side note, I think I'm beginning to experience a "Penguin Hockey Refractory Period". For at least 5 minutes after any Penguin powerplay, I have to take a step back and get recharged. I know we got one last night, but they are an absolute mess out there. Put Granato in charge and fire Yeo.
#33
2009-12-04 15:44
Quote:
Reporter: "So the Crosby/Malkin duo is a keeper for the next years?"
Malkin: "Who? I am talk about Big Leader Richards".
"I hope he wins the scoring title. I'm enjoying playing with him and seeing his leadership. We will follow him."
Reporter: "So the Crosby/Malkin duo is a keeper for the next years?"
Malkin: "Who? I am talk about Big Leader Richards".
#34
2009-12-04 15:49
speaking of the cap, did you all see the Savard deal?
Quote:
Quote:
Hockey may be a game of sacrifice on the ice, but that selflessness rarely shows itself at the bargaining table. When the term "hometown discount" is tossed around, it usually means a haircut of a couple hundred thousand, maybe a million (case in point: Sidney Crosby's well-deserved but nonetheless limiting $8.7 million annual hit in Pittsburgh). Everybody smiles, talks about how much the extra cap flexibility means to the team, and a few pennies are pushed from one pile to another. But Marc Savard, who has earned $5 million a year as Boston's leading scorer over the past three seasons, made a more sizable concession. As a free agent this summer, he would have attracted offers in the $6-$7 million range. But the seven-year, $28.05 million accord announced this week proved him to be the rare player who is truly willing to take one for the team. Rather than follow ex-linemate Phil Kessel's advice to maximize his take in the open market (and, you know, maybe join him in Toronto), Savard actively campaigned for a deal to stay with the Bruins that actually cut his cap footprint. The pact was heavily front-loaded, paying him $7 million each of the first two years. After that, it's $6.5 million, $5 million, $1.5 million and then just $525,000 over the final two years. In essence, the 32-year-old and the team are betrothed for just the next four years. If his productivity slips before or during the last three seasons of the deal, the Bruins can send him out to pasture with a readily absorbable buyout. The irony of it is rich. Savard, a guy ripped for much of his career as the epitome of me-first selfishness, proves to be the game's ultimate team player where it matters most these days. Good on him. Now the pressure's on Boston GM Peter Chiarelli to do something important with the cap space to justify Savard's sacrifice.
Read more: sportsillustrated.cnn.com/.../...
#35
2009-12-04 15:49
Quoting Steel_Town_Feve r:
I hardly call Wyatt Smith, Jesse Boulerice, and Wade Brookbank young prospects who the Baby Pens can't afford to sit semi-regularly in order to get Chris Bourque out on the ice.
And seriously, if Bourque ends up becoming a star on some other team (no matter how unlikely that may be), so many of you fuckers will bitch incessantly that the Pens let him go and will call for Shero's head. So many of you have spent so much fucking time this season bitching about a fucking non-factor. Holy shit, imagine if he was playing more than 5-6 minutes a night - you all would be bigger emo-fag cutters than Ryan fucking Miller.
That and the fact that he's taking a roster spot from one of our young prospects that actually will mean something to this team's future.
I hardly call Wyatt Smith, Jesse Boulerice, and Wade Brookbank young prospects who the Baby Pens can't afford to sit semi-regularly in order to get Chris Bourque out on the ice.
And seriously, if Bourque ends up becoming a star on some other team (no matter how unlikely that may be), so many of you fuckers will bitch incessantly that the Pens let him go and will call for Shero's head. So many of you have spent so much fucking time this season bitching about a fucking non-factor. Holy shit, imagine if he was playing more than 5-6 minutes a night - you all would be bigger emo-fag cutters than Ryan fucking Miller.
#36
2009-12-04 15:56
Quoting PensFan2166:
I'm trying to come up with a contradictory response to that, and I can't. The only reason Boulerice and Brookbank are getting regular time is because of our own slate of injuries (Veilleux, Conner, Bayda, and a few others). Smith, though, has some game.
I hardly call Wyatt Smith, Jesse Boulerice, and Wade Brookbank young prospects who the Baby Pens can't afford to sit semi-regularly in order to get Chris Bourque out on the ice.
I'm trying to come up with a contradictory response to that, and I can't. The only reason Boulerice and Brookbank are getting regular time is because of our own slate of injuries (Veilleux, Conner, Bayda, and a few others). Smith, though, has some game.
#37
2009-12-04 16:04
Quoting PensFan2166:
I think you misunderstand what I was saying.
I was taking a spot from the Caputi's and Tangradi's of the world on the big Pens roster.
I could care less about Bourque and whether he clears waivers or not, and what that impact may be on the crappy players on the Baby Pens roster.
Quoting Steel_Town_Feve r:That and the fact that he's taking a roster spot from one of our young prospects that actually will mean something to this team's future.
I hardly call Wyatt Smith, Jesse Boulerice, and Wade Brookbank young prospects who the Baby Pens can't afford to sit semi-regularly in order to get Chris Bourque out on the ice.
And seriously, if Bourque ends up becoming a star on some other team (no matter how unlikely that may be), so many of you fuckers will bitch incessantly that the Pens let him go and will call for Shero's head. So many of you have spent so much fucking time this season bitching about a fucking non-factor. Holy shit, imagine if he was playing more than 5-6 minutes a night - you all would be bigger emo-fag cutters than Ryan fucking Miller.
I think you misunderstand what I was saying.
I was taking a spot from the Caputi's and Tangradi's of the world on the big Pens roster.
I could care less about Bourque and whether he clears waivers or not, and what that impact may be on the crappy players on the Baby Pens roster.
#38
2009-12-04 16:05
Quoting dps2002:
I know you aren't arguing with me, but I just want to clarify: I'm not saying Smith can't play and that the fists of Brookbank and Boulerice (when not suffering 1-punch KO's from Aaron Downey) aren't useful. All I am saying is that those guys aren't important enough to the Pens to warrant sitting Bourque - a still developing prospect despite what many on here think - so they can take regular shifts.
I'm trying to come up with a contradictory response to that, and I can't. The only reason Boulerice and Brookbank are getting regular time is because of our own slate of injuries (Veilleux, Conner, Bayda, and a few others). Smith, though, has some game.
I know you aren't arguing with me, but I just want to clarify: I'm not saying Smith can't play and that the fists of Brookbank and Boulerice (when not suffering 1-punch KO's from Aaron Downey) aren't useful. All I am saying is that those guys aren't important enough to the Pens to warrant sitting Bourque - a still developing prospect despite what many on here think - so they can take regular shifts.
#39
2009-12-04 16:07
@Steel_Town_Fev er - Bourque wasn't taking any NHL playing time from Luca Caputi or Eric Tangradi. This is Caputi's second professional season and Tangradi's first. There is absolutely no point in rushing them to the NHL when they've barely gotten used to the AHL level. Let them get some seasoning down there.
If Bourque was really taking an NHL roster spot from Caputi or Tangradi, those guys would've been called up earlier this season instead of Mark Letestu and Chris Conner. Bank on it.
If Bourque was really taking an NHL roster spot from Caputi or Tangradi, those guys would've been called up earlier this season instead of Mark Letestu and Chris Conner. Bank on it.
#40
2009-12-04 16:10
Quote:
I don't recall how much time I sat around thinking about a guy who played 7(ish) minutes a night this season, but if he becomes hockey jesus I still don't care...matter of fact, I don't care if he lives or dies in the AHL. I just don't care. But I AM a bastard. I DO care aboat that...Oh...and broads...care aboat those too.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO
So many of you have spent so much fucking time this season bitching about a fucking non-factor. Holy shit, imagine if he was playing more than 5-6 minutes a night - you all would be bigger emo-fag cutters than Ryan fucking Miller.
I don't recall how much time I sat around thinking about a guy who played 7(ish) minutes a night this season, but if he becomes hockey jesus I still don't care...matter of fact, I don't care if he lives or dies in the AHL. I just don't care. But I AM a bastard. I DO care aboat that...Oh...and broads...care aboat those too.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO
#41
2009-12-04 16:19
GOOD. Bourque got his chances to produce. He had time as a top 6, and regularly got 9 mins a game. But he didn't do anything with that time. The 3 points he got we all from making pass at a lucky time. Not because he setup the play. He is just not NHL calibre. Should we need another forward, we can now call up Chris Conner who clearly played with more skill and drive than Bourque did. And guys like Mike Rupp prove that you can make the most of being a 3rd/4th line player.
But now I have to wonder. Who gets the press box time when Kunitz comes back?
But now I have to wonder. Who gets the press box time when Kunitz comes back?
#42
2009-12-04 16:19
I had to post this pic from the Flyers/Nucks game. Look at the dude eating the ice cream, intense!
I put red arrows to all the Philly trash there. wow
I had to post this pic from the Flyers/Nucks game. Look at the dude eating the ice cream, intense!
I put red arrows to all the Philly trash there. wow
#43
2009-12-04 16:19
Peff D, that Savard contract was a huge deal for Bahston ... he took a cut because he wants to stay with the Bruins for his entire career. Real classy move (especially after all the problems they were having with the cap during the offseason and keeping players ... Rejean clearly is smarter with money than Chiarelli, but that's a given.)
Nothing wrong with Bourque being sent down if that means the team is healthy ... although Kunitz hasn't practiced all week. Whatev. As long as the team is winning, I'm fine. Or maybe Russell Crowe took those tips from Jagr well and is lacing up ... do it. I hear him and Mario are in the best shapes of their lives. Just sayin'
Also, Kelly and Annie look awesome in the banner. Eileen and the Doofy sign = still epic. Cblog HOF ftw.
Nothing wrong with Bourque being sent down if that means the team is healthy ... although Kunitz hasn't practiced all week. Whatev. As long as the team is winning, I'm fine. Or maybe Russell Crowe took those tips from Jagr well and is lacing up ... do it. I hear him and Mario are in the best shapes of their lives. Just sayin'
Also, Kelly and Annie look awesome in the banner. Eileen and the Doofy sign = still epic. Cblog HOF ftw.
#45
2009-12-04 16:37
Quoting PensFan2166:
True I guess but if Bourque wasn't there then there would also be room to bring in one of those guys to fill in for an injury and give them a little experience. I think those other guys were brought up because they needed somebody to fill in on the bottom lines where as Bourque was given a shot on a scoring line (some place where you want those young guys playing if they do get called up at all).
@Steel_Town_Fev er - Bourque wasn't taking any NHL playing time from Luca Caputi or Eric Tangradi. This is Caputi's second professional season and Tangradi's first. There is absolutely no point in rushing them to the NHL when they've barely gotten used to the AHL level. Let them get some seasoning down there.
If Bourque was really taking an NHL roster spot from Caputi or Tangradi, those guys would've been called up earlier this season instead of Mark Letestu and Chris Conner. Bank on it.
True I guess but if Bourque wasn't there then there would also be room to bring in one of those guys to fill in for an injury and give them a little experience. I think those other guys were brought up because they needed somebody to fill in on the bottom lines where as Bourque was given a shot on a scoring line (some place where you want those young guys playing if they do get called up at all).
#46
2009-12-04 16:38
Quoting hxcschweizer:
wow. some of those are instant classics.
/offtopicblog
downgoesbrown.com/.../nhl-injuries.html
wow. some of those are instant classics.
#47
2009-12-04 16:39
Savard's deal is a great one for Boston, but if Muir wanted a basis for comparison, he should've used Zetterberg's deal because Zetterberg is a hell of a lot closer to the same point in his career that Savard is in his, if that makes sense.
Crosby didn't just leave hundreds of thousands or even a million dollars on the table when he negotiated his extension. He left upwards of probably $2-3 million PER YEAR on the table when he agreed to that deal. Over the life of his existing deal, Crosby left upwards of $12-18 million on the table.
Crosby could've just as easily demanded a max-20%-of-the-cap deal from Lemieux, Burkle and Shero. He could've demanded it because he knew if they turned him down, there were 29 other owners who would've gladly beat the crap out of each other for the chance to offer him that deal. But Crosby didn't.
Those guys all took lower cap hits because their age allows them to be in the position to take front-loaded deals that help mitigate their cap hits. Unless Crosby were to tear up his current deal and sign a 15-year contract, that reduced cap hit deal for Sid will have a wait a couple of more years.
Crosby didn't just leave hundreds of thousands or even a million dollars on the table when he negotiated his extension. He left upwards of probably $2-3 million PER YEAR on the table when he agreed to that deal. Over the life of his existing deal, Crosby left upwards of $12-18 million on the table.
Crosby could've just as easily demanded a max-20%-of-the-cap deal from Lemieux, Burkle and Shero. He could've demanded it because he knew if they turned him down, there were 29 other owners who would've gladly beat the crap out of each other for the chance to offer him that deal. But Crosby didn't.
Those guys all took lower cap hits because their age allows them to be in the position to take front-loaded deals that help mitigate their cap hits. Unless Crosby were to tear up his current deal and sign a 15-year contract, that reduced cap hit deal for Sid will have a wait a couple of more years.
#48
2009-12-04 16:40
Quote:
Wha?
I personally would of enjoyed watching a midget play on the 4th line than Bourque.
oh wait...
So many of you have spent so much fucking time this season bitching about a fucking non-factor. Holy shit, imagine if he was playing more than 5-6 minutes a night - you all would be bigger emo-fag cutters than Ryan fucking Miller.
Wha?
I personally would of enjoyed watching a midget play on the 4th line than Bourque.
oh wait...
#49
2009-12-04 16:46
Quoting Russ Muffin:
Does Recchi count? I hate him
Quote:So many of you have spent so much fucking time this season bitching about a fucking non-factor. Holy shit, imagine if he was playing more than 5-6 minutes a night - you all would be bigger emo-fag cutters than Ryan fucking Miller.
Wha?
I personally would of enjoyed watching a midget play on the 4th line than Bourque.
oh wait...
Does Recchi count? I hate him
#50
2009-12-04 16:46
Quoting Stoosh:
Commit..
I have a hard time seeing Crosby leaving the Penguins weather it be for money or to be closer to home. Like it was said he has a close bond with Mario and because of that I'm sure he gets to put his 2 cents in on what he wants for the team.
I would like to think Malkin will stay a Penguin as well but I'm not as sure about him as I am Crosby. (Before reading this next sentence please note that I do not think Malkin is presently anything like Jaromir Jagr) Jagr was a fan favorite and liked playing in Pittsburgh until the team started going down hill. I'm not saying that Malkin will "die alive" in Pittsburgh and request a trade, but nobody thought Jagr would leave the team.
Trade Crosby now he's a team killer anyway
From the previous thread...
Quoting dying alive:Quoting PensFan2166:As long as the team stays successful and they have a chance to win most years - and of course if the salary cap situation permits it - I expect both Sid & Geno to retire as Pens. I don't see either of them requesting a trade as long as they can win. They both seem like stand-up enough guys that they can put aside any egos in order to win.
The fact that both of them seem to value winning above all else definitely plays to the Pens advantage. They've got an owner with ridiculously deep pockets (Burkle), an owner who most of them probably admired as kids and still look up to now (Mario), and a GM who is honest and treats them with respect (Rejean). They've committed to winning and spending to the cap year in and year out and the deal they got with the new arena will allow them to do it. They're locking up guys long term, and not just Sid & Geno. Throw in the fact that Pittsburgh is a huge sports town, a great place to live and we treat our athletes well but don't stalk them like the paparazzi and you'd have to think the chances are better than average.
Also, the mentor/protegee relationship that Mario and Sid have going on can't hurt either. Sid has his own family, but he's basically a part of Mario's family as well at this point and he seems to really enjoy that. Hey, I'll take any little advantage we can get when it comes to keeping him here his entire career. Now only if he'd commit to staying by moving out of Mario's wood-paneled basement and buying his own place, am I right haters?
I have no real problem with this loophole that many teams have used to circumvent the "spirit" of the cap because it still accomplishes what the cap was designed in part to do - allow each team a chance to retain its own talent. Most of the players on the roster aren't getting these deals. By and large, many of them are going to homegrown talents who are considered by organizations AND FANS to be franchise-caliber players. Fans want to see these players stick around and not have to worry about Sidney Crosby or John Tavares one day playing for the Rangers, or Zetterberg one day suiting up for the Blackhawks. These kind of deals help sell tickets, too.
I don't see Crosby ever wearing another team's jersey. He's said hundreds of times - unprompted - that he loves playing and living in Pittsburgh, that he appreciates the fact that the locals allow him to maintain his privacy, and he's said that it reminds him a lot of where he grew up.
I think the same goes for Malkin. He genuinely seems to like it here and was especially impacted by the way his mom and dad were treated when they were here. And contrary to what the rumor-mongering websites want to believe, he has not once expressed an interest to go to another team so he can occupy the spotlight that he currently shares here with Crosby. I think he knows that because of Sid's presence on the team, there are certain things he'll never have to do here in terms of obligations as the go-to-guy for the local media. That allowed him to get into a comfort zone relatively quickly.
If anything else, I could see Malkin leaving the NHL in general quite a bit earlier than Sid, going back to Magnitogorsk and playing out his career there. He's made comments in the past that indicate how important his hometown is to him and how he would eventually like to still play there. I think that may depend on how his career here pans out; if he wins a slew of Cups over the next ten years, I could see that happening.
Commit..
I have a hard time seeing Crosby leaving the Penguins weather it be for money or to be closer to home. Like it was said he has a close bond with Mario and because of that I'm sure he gets to put his 2 cents in on what he wants for the team.
I would like to think Malkin will stay a Penguin as well but I'm not as sure about him as I am Crosby. (Before reading this next sentence please note that I do not think Malkin is presently anything like Jaromir Jagr) Jagr was a fan favorite and liked playing in Pittsburgh until the team started going down hill. I'm not saying that Malkin will "die alive" in Pittsburgh and request a trade, but nobody thought Jagr would leave the team.
Trade Crosby now he's a team killer anyway
#51
2009-12-04 16:46
See ya Bourque...Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Hopefully someone picks him up
#52
2009-12-04 16:49
Quoting hxcschweizer:
The player: Joe Thornton
The injury: Damaged windpipe due to choking
What happened: Unaware of strict internal rules regarding team meals, new teammate Dany Heatley mentions the word "playoffs".
HHHHHHHAAAAAAAA AAHHHAHAHAHAHA
/offtopicblog
downgoesbrown.com/.../nhl-injuries.html
The player: Joe Thornton
The injury: Damaged windpipe due to choking
What happened: Unaware of strict internal rules regarding team meals, new teammate Dany Heatley mentions the word "playoffs".
HHHHHHHAAAAAAAA AAHHHAHAHAHAHA
#53
2009-12-04 16:54
Here are some pictures that were posted over at LGP of the inside of the new arena. I'm linking to the thread instead of grabbing them and reposting because they're from somebody's Facebook:
letsgopens.com/.../...
It actually looks like an arena inside. Is it me, or does the upper bowl look like it's not nearly as far from the ice as it is in some newer arenas? I know it's tough to gauge because the seats aren't even in yet, but it's not nearly as spread out as I expected it to be.
letsgopens.com/.../...
It actually looks like an arena inside. Is it me, or does the upper bowl look like it's not nearly as far from the ice as it is in some newer arenas? I know it's tough to gauge because the seats aren't even in yet, but it's not nearly as spread out as I expected it to be.
#54
2009-12-04 16:54
Quoting Timko:
Shit man. Please do not bring back memories. If history does really does repeat itself. Crosby better be in the MRI room every week. he'll have that bitch by the balls.
Quoting Stoosh:From the previous thread...
Quoting dying alive:Quoting PensFan2166:As long as the team stays successful and they have a chance to win most years - and of course if the salary cap situation permits it - I expect both Sid & Geno to retire as Pens. I don't see either of them requesting a trade as long as they can win. They both seem like stand-up enough guys that they can put aside any egos in order to win.
The fact that both of them seem to value winning above all else definitely plays to the Pens advantage. They've got an owner with ridiculously deep pockets (Burkle), an owner who most of them probably admired as kids and still look up to now (Mario), and a GM who is honest and treats them with respect (Rejean). They've committed to winning and spending to the cap year in and year out and the deal they got with the new arena will allow them to do it. They're locking up guys long term, and not just Sid & Geno. Throw in the fact that Pittsburgh is a huge sports town, a great place to live and we treat our athletes well but don't stalk them like the paparazzi and you'd have to think the chances are better than average.
Also, the mentor/protegee relationship that Mario and Sid have going on can't hurt either. Sid has his own family, but he's basically a part of Mario's family as well at this point and he seems to really enjoy that. Hey, I'll take any little advantage we can get when it comes to keeping him here his entire career. Now only if he'd commit to staying by moving out of Mario's wood-paneled basement and buying his own place, am I right haters?
I have no real problem with this loophole that many teams have used to circumvent the "spirit" of the cap because it still accomplishes what the cap was designed in part to do - allow each team a chance to retain its own talent. Most of the players on the roster aren't getting these deals. By and large, many of them are going to homegrown talents who are considered by organizations AND FANS to be franchise-caliber players. Fans want to see these players stick around and not have to worry about Sidney Crosby or John Tavares one day playing for the Rangers, or Zetterberg one day suiting up for the Blackhawks. These kind of deals help sell tickets, too.
I don't see Crosby ever wearing another team's jersey. He's said hundreds of times - unprompted - that he loves playing and living in Pittsburgh, that he appreciates the fact that the locals allow him to maintain his privacy, and he's said that it reminds him a lot of where he grew up.
I think the same goes for Malkin. He genuinely seems to like it here and was especially impacted by the way his mom and dad were treated when they were here. And contrary to what the rumor-mongering websites want to believe, he has not once expressed an interest to go to another team so he can occupy the spotlight that he currently shares here with Crosby. I think he knows that because of Sid's presence on the team, there are certain things he'll never have to do here in terms of obligations as the go-to-guy for the local media. That allowed him to get into a comfort zone relatively quickly.
If anything else, I could see Malkin leaving the NHL in general quite a bit earlier than Sid, going back to Magnitogorsk and playing out his career there. He's made comments in the past that indicate how important his hometown is to him and how he would eventually like to still play there. I think that may depend on how his career here pans out; if he wins a slew of Cups over the next ten years, I could see that happening.
Commit..
I have a hard time seeing Crosby leaving the Penguins weather it be for money or to be closer to home. Like it was said he has a close bond with Mario and because of that I'm sure he gets to put his 2 cents in on what he wants for the team.
I would like to think Malkin will stay a Penguin as well but I'm not as sure about him as I am Crosby. (Before reading this next sentence please note that I do not think Malkin is presently anything like Jaromir Jagr) Jagr was a fan favorite and liked playing in Pittsburgh until the team started going down hill. I'm not saying that Malkin will "die alive" in Pittsburgh and request a trade, but nobody thought Jagr would leave the team.
Trade Crosby now he's a team killer anyway
Shit man. Please do not bring back memories. If history does really does repeat itself. Crosby better be in the MRI room every week. he'll have that bitch by the balls.
#56
2009-12-04 17:09
Quoting shelton589:
gallery.me.com/.../web.jpg
gallery.me.com/.../web.jpg
whats the link to get Charlie Printouts?
gallery.me.com/.../web.jpg
gallery.me.com/.../web.jpg
#57
2009-12-04 17:10
Quote:
I was thinking that with the advent of Rupp, Godard might start sitting some games similar to the Adams situation last year.
But now I have to wonder. Who gets the press box time when Kunitz comes back?
I was thinking that with the advent of Rupp, Godard might start sitting some games similar to the Adams situation last year.
#58
2009-12-04 17:43
Quoting dying alive:
I'm getting more and more fired up about the new arena, especially after seeing those pics. Good to see the upper bowl is close to the ice. My current seats are in the E balcony right behind the goal, and I'm hoping and praying I get comparable seats in the new place.
Speaking of which, have any season ticket holders heard anything about seating at the CEC? Like when we'll find out where our seats will be, projected increase in prices, etc.? I haven't heard a thing.
Here are some pictures that were posted over at LGP of the inside of the new arena. I'm linking to the thread instead of grabbing them and reposting because they're from somebody's Facebook:
letsgopens.com/.../...
It actually looks like an arena inside. Is it me, or does the upper bowl look like it's not nearly as far from the ice as it is in some newer arenas? I know it's tough to gauge because the seats aren't even in yet, but it's not nearly as spread out as I expected it to be.
I'm getting more and more fired up about the new arena, especially after seeing those pics. Good to see the upper bowl is close to the ice. My current seats are in the E balcony right behind the goal, and I'm hoping and praying I get comparable seats in the new place.
Speaking of which, have any season ticket holders heard anything about seating at the CEC? Like when we'll find out where our seats will be, projected increase in prices, etc.? I haven't heard a thing.
#59
2009-12-04 17:45
The player: Marian Hossa
The injury: Lacerations to both wrists
What happened: New teammate Patrick Kane introduced himself by saying "Wow, you played for Pittsburgh and Detroit? Can I see your Cup rings?"
Wow. That is comedy at its finest.
The injury: Lacerations to both wrists
What happened: New teammate Patrick Kane introduced himself by saying "Wow, you played for Pittsburgh and Detroit? Can I see your Cup rings?"
Wow. That is comedy at its finest.
#60
2009-12-04 18:08
2166,
Not really. Shero is human and is prone to making mistakes (although it rarely happens in my eyes). As of December 4th, 2009, the Son of Ray simply is not an NHL player. They've given him top line minutes and although 20G = 3 Ass, that is not enough to warrant a spot on a defending Stanley Cup champion.
Will somebody claim him? It's possible. As mentioned upthread, there are tons of injuries out there and maybe some team will hope to catch lightning in a bottle and hope that he scores 5 goals in 10 games. Will it happen? I doubt it. He had ice time with two of the best players of the world and had nothing to show for it, and with his size it's not like a team could use him effectively on the bottom six.
Let him go to WBS. Let him find the net again. Maybe he'll find the talent he had that he showed that made him a 2nd round pick. Maybe he won't, I really don't know. At the end of the day, he's still a Penguin and I wish him well, but at this point in his career, he is not NHL ready.
NHL Network reports that Charles Foster Ofdensen look-a-like John Stevens "has been relieved of his duties".
Not really. Shero is human and is prone to making mistakes (although it rarely happens in my eyes). As of December 4th, 2009, the Son of Ray simply is not an NHL player. They've given him top line minutes and although 20G = 3 Ass, that is not enough to warrant a spot on a defending Stanley Cup champion.
Will somebody claim him? It's possible. As mentioned upthread, there are tons of injuries out there and maybe some team will hope to catch lightning in a bottle and hope that he scores 5 goals in 10 games. Will it happen? I doubt it. He had ice time with two of the best players of the world and had nothing to show for it, and with his size it's not like a team could use him effectively on the bottom six.
Let him go to WBS. Let him find the net again. Maybe he'll find the talent he had that he showed that made him a 2nd round pick. Maybe he won't, I really don't know. At the end of the day, he's still a Penguin and I wish him well, but at this point in his career, he is not NHL ready.
NHL Network reports that Charles Foster Ofdensen look-a-like John Stevens "has been relieved of his duties".
#61
2009-12-04 18:20
Quote:
I call bullshit. Kid makes 9ish mil/yr, although 8.7/8.8 go against the cap. He MAYbe left 1-1.75 mil a year on the table. How many players are making 10 mil/yr? I know of only 2, and they are franchise killers. I don't think Ray would offer even Mario that kind of money.
Listen at me..ONLY 1-1.75 million a year. I'd do some pretty evil shit for that kind of money just being left on the table. Just sayin'
He left upwards of probably $2-3 million PER YEAR
I call bullshit. Kid makes 9ish mil/yr, although 8.7/8.8 go against the cap. He MAYbe left 1-1.75 mil a year on the table. How many players are making 10 mil/yr? I know of only 2, and they are franchise killers. I don't think Ray would offer even Mario that kind of money.
Listen at me..ONLY 1-1.75 million a year. I'd do some pretty evil shit for that kind of money just being left on the table. Just sayin'
#62
2009-12-04 18:27
Quote:
Carolina Hurricanes have granted Philthy permission to talk to Peter Laviolette
NHL Network reports that Charles Foster Ofdensen look-a-like John Stevens "has been relieved of his duties".
Carolina Hurricanes have granted Philthy permission to talk to Peter Laviolette
#63
2009-12-04 18:39
Quoting J.S.:
Does this mean that Ann Margaret is not coming?
NHL Network reports that Charles Foster Ofdensen look-a-like John Stevens "has been relieved of his duties".
Does this mean that Ann Margaret is not coming?
#64
2009-12-04 18:42
This has absolutely nothing to do with hockey, but I find it fucking hilarious. All of the reviews are the funny parts.
amazon.com/.../ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
amazon.com/.../ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
#65
2009-12-04 18:51
@J.S. - I'm by no means saying that Chris Bourque warrants a spot on the NHL roster. All I'm saying is that so many folks are acting so amazingly butthurt over him being in the NHL. In all honesty, I'd rather somebody like him eat minutes at the NHL level than some of the prospects who aren't ready for it yet. It's one thing to bring a prospect up for 4-5 games like Luca Caputi last season. It is an entirely different animal to bring them up for over a quarter of the season - especially with all the pressure of expectations from the fans expecting them to be studs - and put them in the NHL lineup. Should Chris Connor have been on the team in lieu of Chris Bourque? Sure, you won't get any arguments from me there. However, this was a low-risk move with the potential to pay off decently. I realize it didn't pay off, but nothing ventured nothing gained. Bourque was a non-factor for the NHL roster, but there have been plenty of folks who've played for the Penguins who've done exponentially worse than 0g, 3a, -4 in 20 games played. People need to put Bourque's presence in perspective.
I think part of the issue though may be how well so many prospects played at a very young age for the Pens. Between Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury & Letang, there have been quite a few teens playing for this club in recent years. Not all players develop that quickly or have that pedigree - regardless of who their father is. Hockey talent doesn't always shoot out of the balls.
I think part of the issue though may be how well so many prospects played at a very young age for the Pens. Between Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury & Letang, there have been quite a few teens playing for this club in recent years. Not all players develop that quickly or have that pedigree - regardless of who their father is. Hockey talent doesn't always shoot out of the balls.
#67
2009-12-04 18:57
bleacherreport.com/.../...
I was kinda hoping that turd wouldn't get flushed right-away, but after last-night's debacle, I am not-surprised
I was kinda hoping that turd wouldn't get flushed right-away, but after last-night's debacle, I am not-surprised
#68
2009-12-04 19:00
Quoting hxcschweizer:
You're right. That did have absolutely nothing to do with hockey.... and it is fucking hilarious. Needs a cup holder though.
This has absolutely nothing to do with hockey, but I find it fucking hilarious. All of the reviews are the funny parts.
amazon.com/.../ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
You're right. That did have absolutely nothing to do with hockey.... and it is fucking hilarious. Needs a cup holder though.
#69
2009-12-04 19:03
Linky-linky:
blogs.citizensvoice.com/penguins/?p=2767
As good a source as any I know regarding the minor league segments of the CBA. According to this, if nobody else in the league takes Bourque from waivers, Washington can in fact take him back and send him right to Hershey. Washington, however, does not have the first claim to him; he would go to another team if that other team were to claim him.
blogs.citizensvoice.com/penguins/?p=2767
As good a source as any I know regarding the minor league segments of the CBA. According to this, if nobody else in the league takes Bourque from waivers, Washington can in fact take him back and send him right to Hershey. Washington, however, does not have the first claim to him; he would go to another team if that other team were to claim him.
#70
2009-12-04 19:24
Also: In this week's edition of Sports Illustrated (the Sportsman of the Year issue) is an article by Michael Farber about Chris Pronger. Decent read, but he's still a neanderthal...and the article appears to suggest that he's proud of it.
EDIT: Source: the Twitter feed of CVBombulie (who is re-tweeting someone else), the Flyers have hired Laviolette as coach.
EDIT: Source: the Twitter feed of CVBombulie (who is re-tweeting someone else), the Flyers have hired Laviolette as coach.
#71
2009-12-04 20:05
this article from Icethetics is saying Pens will have a new 3rd next season. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
icethetics.info/.../...
icethetics.info/.../...
#74
2009-12-04 20:42
Quoting Timko:
something I noticed with Jagr was that whenever Lemieux retired and Jagr became the number one guy, the extra attention just got to him. He went from being the always smiling Jagr and morphed into a dark and cold Jagr. He just seemed to crack under the extra pressure that Lemieux had handled so well. I notice with Malkin that the lack of media pressure actually lets him focus on his game instead of what the media wants from him. Sid can easily handle the media pressure as can most Canadian superstars (Probably due the large amount of attention they see when they're much younger. Crosby grew up recieving a large amount of attention, even in Juniors.) Hockey coverage in eastern Europe isn't like canadian coverage.
I would like to think Malkin will stay a Penguin as well but I'm not as sure about him as I am Crosby. (Before reading this next sentence please note that I do not think Malkin is presently anything like Jaromir Jagr) Jagr was a fan favorite and liked playing in Pittsburgh until the team started going down hill. I'm not saying that Malkin will "die alive" in Pittsburgh and request a trade, but nobody thought Jagr would leave the team.
something I noticed with Jagr was that whenever Lemieux retired and Jagr became the number one guy, the extra attention just got to him. He went from being the always smiling Jagr and morphed into a dark and cold Jagr. He just seemed to crack under the extra pressure that Lemieux had handled so well. I notice with Malkin that the lack of media pressure actually lets him focus on his game instead of what the media wants from him. Sid can easily handle the media pressure as can most Canadian superstars (Probably due the large amount of attention they see when they're much younger. Crosby grew up recieving a large amount of attention, even in Juniors.) Hockey coverage in eastern Europe isn't like canadian coverage.
#75
2009-12-04 22:50
Quoting VSFerrito67:
the Trib reported this a couple weeks ago. I believe its true
this article from Icethetics is saying Pens will have a new 3rd next season. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
icethetics.info/.../...
the Trib reported this a couple weeks ago. I believe its true
#76
2009-12-05 00:15
Quoting hogner:
What a coincidence! I was tired of hearing everyone whine about it all of the time!
Woooooooooo!!!! !
Tired of watching him bring a boatload of suck to the rink every night.
What a coincidence! I was tired of hearing everyone whine about it all of the time!
#77
2009-12-05 03:04
Quoting penguinsexperie nce:
thank you much
Quoting shelton589:whats the link to get Charlie Printouts?
gallery.me.com/.../web.jpg
gallery.me.com/.../web.jpg
thank you much
#78
2009-12-05 14:28
Quoting VSFerrito67:
I cant confirm or deny but I have heard rumors, I believe that the 3rd jersey will be from the 77-79 seasons or something like it.
pittsburghhockey.net/.../...
this article from Icethetics is saying Pens will have a new 3rd next season. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
icethetics.info/.../...
I cant confirm or deny but I have heard rumors, I believe that the 3rd jersey will be from the 77-79 seasons or something like it.
pittsburghhockey.net/.../...
#79
2009-12-05 14:33
I think someone will pick him up. He's fast and has speed, he just cant score or do much of anything else. I think he's made it this far cause of his dad. I wonder how many scouts said "He's the son of Ray Bourque, he'll come around sooner or later."
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